In your opinion, what is a bigger accomplishment?

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  • Heeb
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    In your opinion, what is a bigger accomplishment?

    A champion in 4 weight classes (one of these titles were lineal) or an undisputed champion in 2 weight classes (also held the lineal title for both these weight classes)?

    My reason for making this thread is I don't think boxers unify enough today. I think the undisputed champion in 2 weight classes is a much bigger accomplishment and boxing would be in a much better place if the true champion in more weight classes was so clear.

    This is not referencing any boxer in particular, just curious what people think.
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  • Heeb
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    #2
    Damn, this thread is popular.

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    • Gordon Gekko
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      #3
      Hard to answer. It really depends on who the previous title holders were.

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      • -GDS-
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        #4
        Really depends on who you beat. If your big for your orginal weight class, you may be able too cherry pick and work your way up through the divisions beating belt-holders who may not be that good, so in general I'd say being undisputed in 2 divisions is better.

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        • Scott9945
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          #5
          Unifying a division gets harder all the time, while moving up weight classes seems to get easier. The ABC groups don't want a unified champion.

          That being said, I think moving up weight classes is still a bigger accomplishment. But maybe not much longer.

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          • edgarg
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            #6
            Originally posted by Heeb 13
            A champion in 4 weight classes (one of these titles were lineal) or an undisputed champion in 2 weight classes (also held the lineal title for both these weight classes)?

            My reason for making this thread is I don't think boxers unify enough today. I think the undisputed champion in 2 weight classes is a much bigger accomplishment and boxing would be in a much better place if the true champion in more weight classes was so clear.

            This is not referencing any boxer in particular, just curious what people think.
            I'd like to qualify my vote for the 2 weight classes by saying that I assumed that the "junior" and "super" divisions were not included; that the 2 weight classes were, for example, ther lightweight and welterweight divisions, or the welterweight and middleweight divisions, without the interference of Junior welter, or light-middle.

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            • edgarg
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              #7
              Originally posted by Scott9945
              Unifying a division gets harder all the time, while moving up weight classes seems to get easier. The ABC groups don't want a unified champion.

              That being said, I think moving up weight classes is still a bigger accomplishment. But maybe not much longer.
              You must consider, which most don't, that people can grow up to about 25 years of age, and with present day skills in making weight, we can find fighters artificially pared down for the weigh-in only to resume their natural weights afterwards which could be as much as 10-15 lbs more. In the old days, it was done more by sweating, eating less, drinking little (thereby damaging kidneys) and using laxatives.

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              • ralph22
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                you know what *******s will vote on their idol never unify a division he simply won a title and cherrypick the weakest title holde rin the next division next move after the ****** 150 catch weight will be a middleweight at 155 the weakest title holder LOL.pacsteroid a disgrace for boxing

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                • KickAzz
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Heeb 13
                  A champion in 4 weight classes (one of these titles were lineal) or an undisputed champion in 2 weight classes (also held the lineal title for both these weight classes)?

                  My reason for making this thread is I don't think boxers unify enough today. I think the undisputed champion in 2 weight classes is a much bigger accomplishment and boxing would be in a much better place if the true champion in more weight classes was so clear.

                  This is not referencing any boxer in particular, just curious what people think.
                  it all depends on who holds what belts and how weak a divsion is.

                  if the division is stacked (like jr WW division ), then it's better to unify. That's why I'm on bradley's case for trying to move up to WW.

                  if the jr WW division was weak then moving up to face the WW champ is a better accomplishment.

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ralph22
                    you know what *******s will vote on their idol never unify a division he simply won a title and cherrypick the weakest title holde rin the next division next move after the ****** 150 catch weight will be a middleweight at 155 the weakest title holder LOL.pacsteroid a disgrace for boxing
                    With those 7 titles, he has 4 lineal so i dont know what your talking about

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