Why does Pacquiao want to know the dates when he will be tested?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #141
    Originally posted by Alibata
    A link??? Dude you are being ******, I ain't even looking because it is obvious. Anything Manny does in this regard is a compromise because he feels that drawing blood weakens him. Check out why he thought he lost to Morales the first time. Manny is superstitious as Floyd is paranoid. It is well documented so you can find it yourself. Blood testing is Floyds thing not Manny. 24 was what he was willing but the man is willing to go beyond his comfort zone and do 14 and most but you and your cronies feel that is enough.
    I'm sorry, did you find a link yet? I appreciate you pretending you can think for Manny but, let's face it, you're corny and dumb and I doubt Manolo wants to be represented that way. Let me know when you find a link giving that reason.

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      #142
      Originally posted by Alibata
      Wow dude. I am not one to buy the not on the table anymore excuse. Did Floyd come to an epiphany that all of a sudden what was acceptable to him is no longer acceptable. Manny is not buying anything from him, we are. If Manny loses money, so does Floyd. So I don't get it. It just comes down to if Floyd wants it or not.
      Good post more gray area lets debate.

      In no other sport would you expect to recieve a better offer than the one you turned down. For example, Revis said no to 10 yrs/$120 mil. You think the Jets are gonna say."ok how about 5yrs/$120 mil or 10yrs/$150 mil? Of course not. Let's say Shane offers Berto a 50/50 split of $5 mil. berto says no. Is Shane gonna say ok take 60%. Of course not. Now back to floyd and manny.

      Floyd offered 14 days in January. we can agree on this right? manny said no. Is it reasonable to think floyd would then offer a better time frame, lets say 24 days? Of course not.

      As to losing money fair point. But try looking at it not as one of us but as someone who just made $40+ mil in his last fight. Remeber when Jay-Z said "now its million dollar deals turning them down"? Floyd, nor manny has to "jump" at the 1st offer because they got bread for days.

      Niether fighter NEEDS the $40 mil they WANt it. big difference kid! When you are starving you eat what you get. When you are hungry you eat what you want.

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        #143
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        My guess is he thinks PAcman is using PED's and his other opponents were not.

        We don't know what testing manny agreed to. best guess is its a 14 day cutoff but we didn't see offer so we are not 100% sure. If so, the offer was not on table after May 2, 2010. we know this for sure because floyd told Larry merchan ton HBO ppv that 0 day cutoff and we can make fight. If manny had accepted 14 days in January and not July, 7 months later they would have fought.

        don't know why floyd took vacation. best guess is he wants to chill for a while and not work. Thats why I take vacation, I dont want to work.
        Floyd ain't saying nothing. This does not mean *****s should fill in the blanks with their imagination. From Manny's own mouth "I accepted Floyd's demands, lets see if he wants to fight me." That is good enough for me.

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          #144
          Because hes using PEDS.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Alibata
            Floyd ain't saying nothing. This does not mean *****s should fill in the blanks with their imagination. From Manny's own mouth "I accepted Floyd's demands, lets see if he wants to fight me." That is good enough for me.
            Of course it is. Whatever Manny says is always good for you. I can see you now: pants saggin, Bad News Bears hat tilted to the side. G'head, man.

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              #146
              Originally posted by Chups
              It was half-half. Jim Rome/Atlas and others were dogging Manny while Bert Sugar/Rafael/Goosen were blaming Floyd for the failed negotiations last January.

              But now it's 100% blame on Floyd.
              Thats what I dont understand Chups
              why all the blame on Floyd as if they know what was offered
              for all we know he offered 50-50 with cut off dates
              but since there is a gag order no one says anything
              we are suppose to believe bob arum?

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                #147
                Originally posted by Alibata
                Floyd ain't saying nothing. This does not mean *****s should fill in the blanks with their imagination. From Manny's own mouth "I accepted Floyd's demands, lets see if he wants to fight me." That is good enough for me.
                What exactly were those demands Alibata? Since Manny didn't specify is that ok for you?

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  Good post more gray area lets debate.

                  In no other sport would you expect to recieve a better offer than the one you turned down. For example, Revis said no to 10 yrs/$120 mil. You think the Jets are gonna say."ok how about 5yrs/$120 mil or 10yrs/$150 mil? Of course not. Let's say Shane offers Berto a 50/50 split of $5 mil. berto says no. Is Shane gonna say ok take 60%. Of course not. Now back to floyd and manny.

                  Floyd offered 14 days in January. we can agree on this right? manny said no. Is it reasonable to think floyd would then offer a better time frame, lets say 24 days? Of course not.

                  As to losing money fair point. But try looking at it not as one of us but as someone who just made $40+ mil in his last fight. Remeber when Jay-Z said "now its million dollar deals turning them down"? Floyd, nor manny has to "jump" at the 1st offer because they got bread for days.

                  Niether fighter NEEDS the $40 mil they WANt it. big difference kid! When you are starving you eat what you get. When you are hungry you eat what you want.

                  Ok. ok I see were your coming from and that was my point. Floyd offered Many 14 50/50. Now manny aint going to take 0 60/40 because, in his mind he ain't the ***** and he don't need it as much as Floyd n most likely vice versa.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    What exactly were those demands Alibata? Since Manny didn't specify is that ok for you?
                    14 50/50 was Floyds demands. and from your last post, I agree.. Manny ain't downgrading from that. I just hope one these guys budges for the sake of this fight.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Alibata
                      Ok. ok I see were your coming from and that was my point. Floyd offered Many 14 50/50. Now manny aint going to take 0 60/40 because, in his mind he ain't the ***** and he don't need it as much as Floyd n most likely vice versa.
                      When did Floyd offer this? And why?

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