Bernard Hopkins is such a *****!!

[SirTomJones]

I'm no Hopkins fan but he is in the HOF no doubt at all.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

How does being 3-3 above 160+ for Tito prove he was a legit middleweight?? Beating Joppy was like beating David Diaz at the weight.

That's the dumbest crap I ever read.


Joppy is equivalent to David Diaz now?

Joppy was fast in foot and hand, skilled, very solid fighter, very legit. Could you please explain in detail how/why he's as soft of a touch or on the same level of accomplishment as David Diaz at their respective weights?

And I'm not even shitting on Diaz.



Tito was a legit middleweight at that point in his career. Period.



The weightclass had nothing to do with losing to Winky.


LMFAO @ you counting the Jones fight, like that means anything.



I'm not interested in your anti-Hopkins agenda and the interminable, thinly veiled 'Africans vs. Mexicans' dance of genetic supremacy on which your entire contribution here is predicated. And FWIW, I like DLH, too. But you're a belligerent wanker and I'm not one of your dance-partners. Take your jaundiced BS and ram it up your ass.

[goldenglove2]

How does being 3-3 above 160+ for Tito prove he was a legit middleweight?? Beating Joppy was like beating David Diaz at the weight.

he knocked Joppy out. you implying that all of Joppy's previous opponents weren't legit MW's aswell?

please....!!

[ИATAS]

hahahaha that was one of the great displays of the sweet science in the past 25 years TS is hurt that bhop is the superior fighter. accept it

[etlux]

tito was in talks of being top 3 P4P fighter at the time. he proved his power at middlweight by destructions. bernard ****d and annihilated him. nuff said...

[AntDawg]

That's the dumbest crap I ever read.


Joppy is equivalent to David Diaz now?

Joppy was fast in foot and hand, skilled, very solid fighter, very legit. Could you please explain in detail how/why he's as soft of a touch or on the same level of accomplishment as David Diaz at their respective weights?

And I'm not even shitting on Diaz.



Tito was a legit middleweight at that point in his career. Period.



The weightclass had nothing to do with losing to Winky.


LMFAO @ you counting the Jones fight, like that means anything.



I'm not interested in your anti-Hopkins agenda and the interminable, thinly veiled 'Africans vs. Mexicans' dance of genetic supremacy on which your entire contribution here is predicated. And FWIW, I like DLH, too. But you're a belligerent wanker and I'm not one of your dance-partners. Take your jaundiced BS and ram it up your ass.

Isn't Joppy's best win an old shot Duran?

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Isn't Joppy's best win an old shot Duran?

Duran is the biggest name on his record.


You make a self-defeating point. Taking out Duran in 3 looks good regardless, but that Duran was "old and shot" might tell you that Joppy has better wins among the less illustrious B names on his record...Shinji Takehara, Julio Cesar Green, Hacine Cherifi, Howard Eastman.


Tito KO'd a skilled, fast, strong, legitimate middleweight with a good chin in 5 rounds.


Some of you are really dumb.

he knocked Joppy out. you implying that all of Joppy's previous opponents weren't legit MW's aswell?

please....!!

David Diaz = lower B-class guy at best.

William Joppy = solid B-class guy, 3 time title-holder with a string of successful defences.



Even when you get past that, the point is completely moot, since the question is 'was Tito a legit middleweight?' and knocking out Joppy in 5 rounds showed Tito was more than capable of hanging with legit middleweights...which makes him -- DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUN -- a legit middleweight.


The guy has no argument. At all.

[drh]

I just re watched his fight with Tito and the dude held most of the fight. He was the bigger man and still held like a coward. He is no HOF.....hes just a punk that held and fought smaller men. Just my thoughts....

and what about going up to face the naturally bigger Tarver...u just ignore that?

And Tito was a legit 160 anyway.

I believe that the Delahoya fight was an arrangement....so i'll give u that if u want it.

[frankenfrank]

I just re watched his fight with Tito and the dude held most of the fight. He was the bigger man and still held like a coward. He is no HOF.....hes just a punk that held and fought smaller men. Just my thoughts....

Hopkin's career is based on beating little guys with excessive hugging.

no, im black. and i didnt say he didnt belong in the HOF. i agree hes an *******, fights dirty and smaller men.

thats what i agreed with

All of the above are correct.

and what about going up to face the naturally bigger Tarver...u just ignore that?

And Tito was a legit 160 anyway.

I believe that the Delahoya fight was an arrangement....so i'll give u that if u want it.

The bigger Tarver had to lose 40lbs to make the 175lbs limit after the Rocky Balboa filming.


Hopkins fought smaller men , still needed to foul in order to win decisions.
Still lost 2 decisions to a never was Jermain Taylor.

[-EX-]

You've gotta be kidding...