Angulo turned down $750,000 to fight Martinez

[Heru]

Wayyyyyyyyyyy overrated. This dude made a living feasting off one style of fighter.

I think its bull**** how Pac gets killed for fighting the same style of fighter. Yet Martinez gets a free pass.

Williams
Cintron
Pavlik
Angulo

I sense a pattern there. I want to see him vs. a Mayweather or Collazo, or a Dzinziruk. A guy that can move and box. Not these brawlers all the time.

Cintron is an athletic power puncher that changed his style to a counter puncher and give more lateral movement.

Williams is a southpaw pressure fighter that is 6'3 with one of the longest reaches under Lt. Heavyweight and can consistently put up 100+ punches per round.

Pavlik is a boxer-puncher, who is a huge middleweight that can throw up 60+ punches in a round easy and do it with power.

You're ridiculous... That's some hater **** right there.

What pattern do you sense Haley Joel?

[-Kev-]

Hmm none of those fighters fight the same.

I know he means none of those fighters have good footwork or box. Cintron has the best footwork out of the bunch, he showed us how good his footwork is against Williams when he jumped out of the ring.

But really, Cintron does have the best footwork out of those guys but none of them really box. Williams footwork is horrible, Pavlik has no legs at all. Angulo just comes forward.

[onechance87]

Cintron is an athletic power puncher that changed his style to a counter puncher and give more lateral movement.

Williams is a southpaw pressure fighter that is 6'3 with one of the longest reaches under Lt. Heavyweight and can consistently put up 100+ punches per round.

Pavlik is a boxer-puncher, who is a huge middleweight that can throw up 60+ punches in a round easy and do it with power.

You're ridiculous... That's some hater **** right there.

What pattern do you sense Haley Joel?

So why not fight Sergiy Dzinziruk bro.

[Heru]

Maybe Angulo is thinking long term if he loses again like another poster mentioned earlier it will lead to fights on espn but if he continues to fight guys whose styles he can exploit a larger payday will eventually come. My only problem with that is why say you are ready to fight anyone and act like you are this fearless champion when in reality your not

This is Shaw's move man, but Perro must know about it. Gary Shaw must figure that he needs to take a page out of Arum's book to create that superstar and avoid bad styles, even if it takes straight up ducking.

He must figure that he'll take the heat for turning down the fight, but it's OK because people will forget and Angulo will eventually be in a good position.

[titanium]

Angulo is a developing junior middleweight. Why would he skip this developmental stage, jump up a weight class, and fight a southpaw counterpuncher. Martinez probably could find a middleweight to fight if he wanted to,

[War Dinamita]

Wayyyyyyyyyyy overrated. This dude made a living feasting off one style of fighter.

I think its bull**** how Pac gets killed for fighting the same style of fighter. Yet Martinez gets a free pass.

Williams
Cintron
Pavlik
Angulo

I sense a pattern there. I want to see him vs. a Mayweather or Collazo, or a Dzinziruk. A guy that can move and box. Not these brawlers all the time.

How can you say he's overrated when he beat Williams, Cintron, Pavlik, and the top boxers are ducking him?

Manny, Cotto, Williams, Angulo, and other top fighters don't want to fight him at 154 and 160.

Martinez is willing to fight anyone. Your boy Williams is still ducking him for a rematch because he doesn't want to get that ass taxed again. He's not overrated when he beat his last 3 opponents and he's the best fighter at 154 and 160.

[Heru]

I like both fighters and see it as a mismatch, so I might let it slide if Angulo takes on a Cotto, Mosley, Williams level fighter. Or Kirkland when he gets out.

[-The Game-]

Lol
All you punks were hating on Williams for supposedly ducking Martinez but look at this Mexican homey turning down his biggest payday.

Quak quak

[Ray*]

That makes a big difference if Martinez wanted the fight at 160 maybe Angulo felt that the weight would put him at a disadvantage.

With $750,000 on the line and a shot at the middleweight crown? Even if he loses NO one would say anything and he has a ready made excuse of saying 160 isnt for him.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

With $750,000 on the line and a shot at the middleweight crown? Even if he loses NO one would say anything and he has a ready made excuse of saying 160 isnt for him.

it was proposed at a catchweight of 155 with the belt on the line


this is a clear duck