Will Pacquiao rely more on his "chin" for his future fights?

**ThePunchingBag** · 08-10-2010, 01:10 AM

Good boxers use their chins to bait an opponent.

A cautious boxer might open up if he sees that he landed a good punch and become overconfident.

A boxer who prides himself in his strength might feel discouraged that his best punch couldn't even faze the guy.

Like Bro. Naazim says, Boxing is 90% Psychological and 10% Punching.

**-Kev-** · 08-10-2010, 01:19 AM

Although I think Margarito will lose, Pacquiao will need his legs against Margarito. He just can't stand in front of a big, tall, pressure fighter who throws a lot of punches and has or had a good chin. I have yet to see if Mosley didn't ruin that chin. If Pacquiao moves a lot then Margarito will not have any target to throw at. If Pacquiao fights like he fought Clottey and Cotto then it could be a long night for Pacquiao.

Another thing is, the keys to Williams' and Mosley's victories against Margarito, was that they held him a lot so that they can smother his work rate and not let him get in a rhythm. This is something Pacquiao doesn't do, he doesn't hold. It was also Cotto's downfall.

**MaD RoBoT** · 08-10-2010, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by -Kev-

Although I think Margarito will lose, Pacquiao will need his legs against Margarito. He just can't stand in front of a big, tall, pressure fighter who throws a lot of punches and has or had a good chin. I have yet to see if Mosley didn't ruin that chin. If Pacquiao moves a lot then Margarito will not have any target to throw at. If Pacquiao fights like he fought Clottey and Cotto then it could be a long night for Pacquiao.

Another thing is, the keys to Williams' and Mosley's victories against Margarito, was that they held him a lot so that they can smother his work rate and not let him get in a rhythm. This is something Pacquiao doesn't do, he doesn't hold. It was also Cotto's downfall.

he knows that he can take a welterweight punch but i think he himself doesn't know how far can his chin go, esp against a stubborn fighter like Margarito

i agree Pac doesn't clinch well or not at all & one reason that will pose problem when he fights Marg

**Tamis!** · 08-10-2010, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by MaD vEiN

Aside from his relentless offense, Pacquiao's defense involves footspeed that requires him to avoid or slip most, if

not all, of punches coming

but as of lately, esp. his last 2 fights, i noticed that Pac has declined in reflexes, maybe partly due to his age where

the speed has already been slipping
from the DLH fight where we saw a "slippery" Pacquiao to an "immovable" Packy dusting off Cotto's bombs, i can

imagine how long can he last at this type of defense at this point of his career

your thoughts?

Pacquiao was so amazing at Cotto's expense, hence the PED accusation.

But what got you to think Pacquiao's reflexes we're slipping because of his last 2 fights? You mean you saw something in the Clottey fight to say that his reflexes is slipping?

Enlighten us sir please, coz we may not know you may see something I can't see, coz all I saw in that Clottey fight is Pac fighting an Armadillo, and in no way Pac showed a decline.

**Prime 407** · 08-10-2010, 06:16 AM

Cotto fight gameplan wasn't about movement or "boxing", it was a mental game. He had to walk cotto down the same way Margs did and get that image into Cotto's mind to break him down mentally and then physically.

With Clottey, Pac purposely left himself open to try and lure Clottey into a gun fight, which when he did, was pretty successful.

I think we'll see the Pac that fought Oscar when we see him fight Margarito, either that or he'll employ similar tactics to shane. Either way it will be entertaining.

**Tamis!** · 08-10-2010, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by mesher

Cotto fight gameplan wasn't about movement or "boxing", it was a mental game. He had to walk cotto down the same way Margs did and get that image into Cotto's mind to break him down mentally and then physically.

With Clottey, Pac purposely left himself open to try and lure Clottey into a gun fight, which when he did, was pretty successful.

I think we'll see the Pac that fought Oscar when we see him fight Margarito, either that or he'll employ similar tactics to shane. Either way it will be entertaining.

Correct,

But TS said he saw a dip in Pac's reflexes in his last 2 fights, and that was Cotto and Clottey.

I thought Pac was great outta Cotto, who was also a great fighter and busted Pac's eardrum, but everyone knows who's dominant in that fight.

Clottey's fight with Pac, it showed NOTHING IMO. Nothing but an agressor waiting for an opening but instead got an armadillo to potshot him and gave him bruises in return just for the sake of him opening up sor the kill.

No nuthuggin' here, just wanna hear what the TS saw in the last 2 fights that made him say pac's reflexes is dipping.

**bojangles1987** · 08-10-2010, 07:17 AM

Pacquiao has never been hard to hit, and in fact has been getting better defensively since moving up, if not great at it. A lot of the beginning of the Cotto fight was psychological, with Pac proving he could take Cotto's punches, but he took very little punishment the rest of the fight, and against Clottey he didn't need defense since he only had to worry about being hit 10 times a round.

**talip bin osman** · 08-10-2010, 07:28 AM

MP relying more on his chin at this point where he competes against bigger guys is a bad idea...

i think he and roy jones are quite similar in a sense that when their athleticism and reflexes leave them, they dont hav the fundamentals to fall back on thus becoming beatable...

**Phil Ivey** · 08-10-2010, 07:32 AM

I wouldn't say he took little punishment.. his face was fairly busted up, but Cotto's face was gone.

Will Pacquiao rely more on his "chin" for his future fights?