What's the reason behind why tygart decided to stop the test 18 days before the fight

[infamous larryx]

when you get done requesting a 14 day window is dumb and raises su****ion

[maguirre]

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Doctor Says Drawing Random Blood Risks Pre-Bout Hematoma
-Lem Satterfield

During the failed negotiations for a potential March 13 bout against unbeaten Floyd Mayweather, seven-division champion, Manny Pacquiao claimed that he did not want to have blood randomly drawn for drug testing within 14 days of a fight.

During Thursday's Nevada State Athletic Commission hearing and teleconference that dealt with steroids and drug testing for illegal substances, the Filipino super star's assertion received some support.

Former chief ringside physician, Dr. David Watson, argued that a hematomas, infections or other injuries could develop in the arm as a result of the skin being punctured "within three weeks of a fight."

"Dr. Watson has done thousands of weigh-in physicals and done thousands of fights. He's viewed tons of medical records. What Dr. Watson was kind of saying was that on some occasions with fighters, he would notice hematomas on the inside of the elbow where they gave blood," said Keith Kizer, executive director of the NSAC.

"So Dr. Watson was concerned that you could have fighters who -- if you take blood too close to the fight -- you could run the risk of something like that developing in a fighter," said Kizer. "That could cause an effect on their performance, especially when they've had to do fights on late notice, for the infections diseases -- Hepetitus A, Hepititis B, and HIV -- and they had to give blood for that."


Kizer said that another doctor, Robert Voy, formerly of United States Olympic Committee drug testing, "brought up the fact that you can have infections."

"There was a center in Las Vegas that re-used needles for some sort of tests, and people got Hepatitis C from that situation," said Kizer (pictured below, at right). "So there's a concern that you can infect somebody and that you can infect the arm nick the vein, or jab it in the wrong place. [Dr. Watson] noticed some bruising on the arms within three weeks of the fight. The question is, can you minimize that?"
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Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, CEO of Top Rank Promotions, for example, believes that he knows why USADA ended its random blood testing so far out from the May 1 fight date.

"You notice that they stopped blood testing in the Floyd Mayweather-Shane Mosley fight about 18 days before. Well, I'm not a doctor, but you have to realize that a fighter uses his arms a lot like a runner uses his legs. You can't take blood too close to the fight. Two or three weeks before the fight he can get a hematoma which can prevent him from either training or fighting," said Arum.

"If it's done further out before the fight, then there's no real problem. But closer to the fight, there's a real problem. For a fighter to lose the last week in training or the week before the fight is a disaster for a fighter," said Arum. "That could happen if he gets a hematoma in the arm that's used for the blood test. USADA, whatever, they might say, must have recognized this, and I believe that that's why they didn't test for blood before 18 days."
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^That's the reason.

They stop at 18 days because of these real dangers, yet ****** *****s are fighting for seeing boxers not at their level best. (That's why these are not real boxing fans, these are just hecklers.) What is idiotic is saying 14 days has expired. Haha... what effing morons.

In their ******ity they actually think that Floyd is like a robot or an animal that can't be affected by it. LOL. Can't wait to see Floyd taking that damn blood test on the day of the fight on his next fight. 18 days cut off next time will be unacceptable.

[maguirre]

bump, bump, bump.............

[pasawayako]

You asked for the reason why and I gave you the reason he stated. I am not assuming. If you want to assume then that's up to you.

All those reason that you gave are valid reason but he did not use any of them.

So u think the main reason why tygart decided to stop the test is because he knows that floyd or shane will be afraid to use the peds because they will never know when they will be tested again and nothing to do with what the doctors and conte said? If that's the case then tygart could stop the test 1 month or more before the fight and not worrying that a fighter will use a peds since they will be scared that they will get caught.

[pasawayako]

They stop at 18 days because of these real dangers, yet ****** *****s are fighting for seeing boxers not at their level best. (That's why these are not real boxing fans, these are just hecklers.) What is idiotic is saying 14 days has expired. Haha... what effing morons.

In their ******ity they actually think that Floyd is like a robot or an animal that can't be affected by it. LOL. Can't wait to see Floyd taking that damn blood test on the day of the fight on his next fight. 18 days cut off next time will be unacceptable.

Yeah bro i think tygart knows the risk to the fighter of being tested near the fight that's why tygard decided to stop the blood test 18 days before the fight and still confident that the fighter will have a fair fight and he knows exactly what conte knows that using those peds in those time frame is useless.

[Prime 407]

Floyd had an under the table agreement with Tygart to stop testing 3 weeks before the fight so he could roid up and still look like a clean fighter. Dodgey underhanded deals from a family of drug dealers and jailbirds.

[MindBat]

Is that really reason? or it could be that tygart know this too.


During Thursday's Nevada State Athletic Commission hearing and teleconference that dealt with steroids and drug testing for illegal substances, the Filipino super star's assertion received some support.

Former chief ringside physician, Dr. David Watson, argued that a hematomas, infections or other injuries could develop in the arm as a result of the skin being punctured "within three weeks of a fight."

Or it could be that he knows what conte knows that using steroids/peds in those time frame is useless as they will not give a fighter any advantage in the fight

Dr. Watson is apparently speculating on what could happen if blood is drawn too close to the fight.

Did he present examples of fighters who have suffered pre-fight or post-fight hematomas, infections or other injuries? Did he present any case histories of fighters who have suffered hematomas due to blood drawing in the past?

Which brings up the question: Has Manny not suffered cuts in previous fights and bled during those fights?

I don't pretend to be an expert on drug testing either, but:

Wouldn't it have been worthwhile and more reassuring to address the 18-day cut-off question to the USADA testing team?

Neither Floyd nor Shane controlled the USADA testing procedures nor the USADA ruling on the matter. Only USADA would best know how to answer that question more accurately.

Is it not worth the effort?

[jpunieves]

do PEDs experts here in NSB really think any drugs wont be detected if blood is drawn right after the fight?

[Frank Ducketts]

Because pac wanted this fight so badly and his fight this november could be his last fight so he wanted to fight floyd before retiring to give the boxing fans what they wanted, but this isn't about pac this is about tygart reasons on why he stop taking the blood test 18 days before the fight.

I knew you wouldn't have an answer lol... You PAc fans are so phony too lol... As far as Tygart, you'd have to ask him if what YOU say is true why he stopped testing 18 days before the fight if that's true. I'm sure he didn't tell the fighters that he would stop though. I'm sure that Tygart kept the fighters on their toes that they would be testing up till the fight. Why ask Floyd's fans though lol... You thought you had a bullet proof question lol... FOOH lol...

[Frank Ducketts]

PAc's fans are jumping on the opinion of a doctor who thinks that blood being draw close to the fight will affect the fighters. You *******s don't even know the amount of blood that's being drawn for the testing lol... Fools lol. Sorry but you all FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!