Pascal will be a tougher test to Dawson than Cloud would be

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  • street bully
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    #11
    Originally posted by ИATAS206
    than I guess he's not that smart after all!

    Pascal is no one at 175. Cloud is the only real test for Dawson
    he is a fool, and after the fight said I wanted to put a show on for the fans eventhough he easily took the rounds he was moving in.

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    • Shadows
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      #12
      After the Pascal fight, he's tried to box more, but he has a habit of trading and exchanging punches and squaring up.....it's why he seems to get stunned a lot.

      That and he likes to pull out with his hands down are the reasons he gets hit a lot.

      That's why I think Cloud beats him. He'd eventually get start trading and get dragged into a firefight.

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      • Taranazan
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        #13
        Originally posted by Shadows
        After the Pascal fight, he's tried to box more, but he has a habit of trading and exchanging punches and squaring up.....it's why he seems to get stunned a lot.

        That and he likes to pull out with his hands down are the reasons he gets hit a lot.

        That's why I think Cloud beats him. He'd eventually get start trading and get dragged into a firefight.
        After he hurt his shoulder in the Diaconu rematch, he kept his hands higher and didn't get hit as much Hopefully he learned from that fight!

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        • The_Demon
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          #14
          I agree with ya

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          • intoccabile
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            #15
            Originally posted by Iceta Lives
            If he's so much better than Cloud or Johnson for that matter then why does he have a loss on his record to a guy who you view as a scrub and even said so on here?
            he's much better at light heavy than super mid

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            • Dan...
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              #16
              I agree and I've always said Cloud was incredibly overrated on here. Chad would make Cloud look terrible.

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              • Iceta Lives
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dan...
                I agree and I've always said Cloud was incredibly overrated on here. Chad would make Cloud look terrible.
                I wish Cloud would rematch Glen Johnson, but if he did Cloud would win again and the fight would probably be close again or maybe even lopsided like the Dawson rematch was. Let me ask you this. Who do you want to see Dawson fight after the match against Pascal? Bute would be the only other acceptable opponent to me. But that's only because Cloud didn't beat Johnson that decisiviely. The Lightheavyweight division is dead outside of Cloud and Dawson so the fight is a no brainer. If Dawson can really beat him, he still needs to prove it. I don't care what happened the other night.

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                • -Kev-
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Shadows
                  After the Pascal fight, he's tried to box more, but he has a habit of trading and exchanging punches and squaring up.....it's why he seems to get stunned a lot.

                  That and he likes to pull out with his hands down are the reasons he gets hit a lot.

                  That's why I think Cloud beats him. He'd eventually get start trading and get dragged into a firefight.
                  The fighter with the faster handspeed usually gets the best out of exchanges. Pascal would have the handspeed advantage over Cloud and Pascal has underrated power. He hurt Froch and Diaconu, he even KD'ed Diaconu or whatever his name is.

                  I can Pascal getting the better out of Cloud in exchanges but not against Dawson because handspeed wise, there's no one faster than Dawson at 168-175. He'd get off first all the time.

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                  • Calilloyd
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                    I wish Cloud would rematch Glen Johnson, but if he did Cloud would win again and the fight would probably be close again or maybe even lopsided like the Dawson rematch was. Let me ask you this. Who do you want to see Dawson fight after the match against Pascal? Bute would be the only other acceptable opponent to me. But that's only because Cloud didn't beat Johnson that decisiviely. The Lightheavyweight division is dead outside of Cloud and Dawson so the fight is a no brainer. If Dawson can really beat him, he still needs to prove it. I don't care what happened the other night.
                    I would like to see him fight Cloud just to show the people that think Cloud beats him. Or that Dawson is ducking him.

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #20
                      I see no fighter beating Dawson right now at 175. Includes Pascal, Cloud, Bute, Ward, Hopkins, or Dirrell.

                      However, both Pascal and Cloud bring their own test to Dawson but in a different manner. But, neither would beat Dawson.

                      Pascal vs Cloud? That would be a good one. And, I am with Shadows I would favor Cloud.

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