Pacman to Mayweather: “Prove Your Greatness, Get In The Ring With Me!” August 8th, 2

[Twako]

Floyd was coward going into the castillo fight, corrales fight, hatton fight, oscar fight, mosley fight etc. This title of being a "Coward" is nothing new my friend. Why do you think he's fights sale out? According to *******s "People pay to see him lose"...If that is true then why is he still labled a coward after he dominates his opponents...there is no answer for that question...

no, floyd wasn't branded a coward early in his career. infact, i was some sort of a fan during the his early career. he was criticized only lately after his few fights at WW. then retiring and coming back to fight a career FW for his comeback fight.

[romaq7705]

Heres the thing. When testing is random there should be no cut off dates. They should be allowed to test you up until the fight. WIth that said. If they chose to stop testing you a day before the fight or a week before the fight, or even 2 weeks before the fight, that fighter shouldnt know when the cut off date is. That should be up to the testing firm. So even if the cut off date is a week out for example, that fighter should still be expecting to be tested. In the case of Mayweather vs Mosley that was the case. They had a 18 day off but they still expected to be randomly tested although they had stopped testing them and after the fight they were tested again....A cut off date is fine..the fighters should be unaware of it though IMO.

ok. i agree that random is that, random. i also agree that the fighters should not know the cutoff. but you see both parties msut protect themselves and spell it out in the contract.

clearly, 18 days out is good enough. else, they would have drawn blood after, right? both parties should expect that blood testing stops there or around that date.

this is boxing and a lot psywar goes on. what if one of them demands a blood test just after weigh in? using the random definition they should both get it, see?

[Alibata]

Floyd was coward going into the castillo fight, corrales fight, hatton fight, oscar fight, mosley fight etc. This title of being a "Coward" is nothing new my friend. Why do you think he's fights sale out? According to *******s "People pay to see him lose"...If that is true then why is he still labled a coward after he dominates his opponents...there is no answer for that question...

Pac ain't Castillo, ain't Corrales, ain't Hatton, ain't Oscar, ain't Mosley. When are you *****s going to recognize that? The so called "Biggest Fight in Boxing History" was not with any of those guys. It is Pacquiao vs. Mayweather. No matter how floyd tries to con you guys into thinking it is just another fight, it is not. His legacy and reputation are on the line for real this time. This will stick with Floyd forever and Floyd knows this because everywhere he goes they remind him of it. Recognize that. Whatever Floyd has done that people deemed him as ducker because he did not fight so and so is all forgivable and forgettable but this ain't. Believe that and recognize that floyd ain't getting away with this one. Thats real talk. *****s can go and hide and ignore all this but when history is written, what Floyd does in the apex of he career will be defined by his decision to fight another apex fighter at the apex of his career called Manny Pacquiao. /end thread

[jpunieves]

fcuk all *****s. none of you have answered my post at page 10.


why the hell was JMM not tested for ****?

[PrinceCharlez]

ok. i agree that random is that, random. i also agree that the fighters should not know the cutoff. but you see both parties msut protect themselves and spell it out in the contract.

clearly, 18 days out is good enough. else, they would have drawn blood after, right? both parties should expect that blood testing stops there or around that date.

this is boxing and a lot psywar goes on. what if one of them demands a blood test just after weigh in? using the random definition they should both get it, see?

If 18 days is fine then it should be fine. But we are not dealing with the most rational people here. Floyd originally wanted it up to the fight, manny gave him a 24 day cut off, Floyd gave him 14 days. Now that Mosley had a 18 day cut off, should that be applied to Manny? I dont know. But it seems to be unlikley since the fight fell through over 14 days. Just like anyone else. I want to see the fight too, but to get the fight we want, these fighters need to give and take. Maybe Manny should agree to testing up until the 14 days or closer to the fight. Maybe floyd can come down from 60/40 to 55/45 or 50/50 still. These fighters arent compromising...they're just complaining..

[PrinceCharlez]

fcuk all *****s. none of you have answered my post at page 10.


why the hell was JMM not tested for ****?

WHat does it Matter that he wasnt tested? Up to Manny Pacquiao No one was tested. And since the first fall through the only fighters that have been tested is Mayweather & Mosley. Oh one more thing. Tyson vs Evander II invovled random testing and Nate Campbell was randomly tested after the baby bull upset...

[Biolink]

If 18 days is fine then it should be fine. But we are not dealing with the most rational people here. Floyd originally wanted it up to the fight, manny gave him a 24 day cut off, Floyd gave him 14 days. Now that Mosley had a 18 day cut off

Note that when you say "18 day" cutoff, for Mosley-Mayweather it wasn't at all an 18 day cutoff at all persé.

They stopped drawing blood 18 days out, but Mosley or Mayweather had no knowledge that they would do so. That's part of the program to keep the fighter's guessing as to exactly when they would come in a draw blood or not, which is why it would have been foolish for either one of them to try and dope up.

When you tell a fighter that the last day ever that he could possibly be tested is 18 days away from the fight, that is different.

That said I doubt you could get much accomplished in 2 and a half weeks if you did want to juice up, but I'm not exactly positive on that as I don't have a clue what kind of performance enhancers are available on the market

[Ganondorf]

Pacman to Mayweather: “Prove Your Greatness, Get In The Ring With Me!”

August 8th, 2010
Ryan Macalua


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LoL. I gotta respect Manny for trying but honestly, I think he's asking for trouble. If he keeps on, it's gonna look like Manny is being a bully and wanting to pick a fight. On fight night, both guys will show up ready, but Floyd's frame and reach look obviously apparent. Soon after they get in the ring it's discovered that Manny doesn't have a way to win.

Here's why.

I don't have to tell you guys why Manny won't outbox Floyd, as this point it's fairly self-explanatory. It's possible Manny could win a decision if his stamina holds up and he's able to deliver volume consistently. My problem with this is: how will Manny be able to pressure Floyd when Mosley wasn't? I tend to think Mosley probably hits harder than Manny and we all know Mosley was fighting bigger guys like Wright. One would tend to believe that Mosley would at least be the aggressor. Why was Mayweather the aggressor?

Strength- Mayweather used to be considered a pretty small guy, but ever since he moved up to 147-154, he has actually grown into his weight. Mayweather was small as a kid, just as I was. I think his body has matured now hence the strength/toughness.

Power- Mayweather's power is underrated. I can think of a very beaten up legend (RIP), an undefeated, relentless body puncher from Manchester, and Zab Judah that would probably disagree.

Speed- Mayweather is among the fastest in the sport.

Boxing fundamentals- Excellent boxer who has improved his jab and his left hook and now has a dangerous offense. He decapitates people who don't move their heads, aka Mosley/Hatton.

Conclusion:
Barring a sudden moment of confusing occurring in the first 3 rounds, where Manny might still have something new in his arsenal to show Floyd. After Floyd gets a moment to adjust to southpaw and his speed, this fight will be over. Floyd KO/TKO late or by wide UD. This fight won't be close. It will look like a great big man beating and following a great little man around the ring.

[Ganondorf]

I don't believe Manny Pacquiao is an expert at sitting in the pocket. Does Manny Pacquiao know how to clinch? I sure wouldn't consider him a likely candidate for highest boxing IQ. No offense. lol

[mathed]

This just proves that all roads lead to Mayweather. Pac is suppose to be the P4P best but he is begging Floyd to fight. This further illustrates who needs who.

LOL, why would he have to beg when he is likely gonna make near 20 million for fighting a guy that he is gonna manhandle?