Pacman to Mayweather: “Prove Your Greatness, Get In The Ring With Me!” August 8th, 2

[pasawayako]

Has Manny failed a drug test? NO!!

Has Shane Mosley failed a drug test? NO!!

Nobody is above being tested plain and simple.

Has Pac been associateted with balco or other co. that involved with steroids? NO!

Are there any evidence or witness that can prove that pac is using peds? NO!

Has mosley been associated with balco or other co. That involved with steroids? YES!

Are there any evidence or witness that can prove that mosley is using peds? YES!

See the big difference?

[Alibata]

Has Pac been associateted with balco or other co. that involved with steroids? NO!

Are there any evidence or witness that can prove that pac is using peds? NO!

Has mosley been associated with balco or other co. That involved with steroids? YES!

Are there any evidence or witness that can prove that mosley is using peds? YES!

See the big difference?

Did Floyd Fight Margarito? NO!!!
Did Floyd Fight Cotto? NO!!!!

Has Floyd ever taken a vacation before when he has no one else to fight but the best? YES!!!

Pac ain't Cotto or Margarito though. Ducking him is biting Floyd in the ass right now harder than it ever did. That is why the general opinion is Floyd is a coward.

[tredh]

Has Pac been associateted with balco or other co. that involved with steroids? NO!

Are there any evidence or witness that can prove that pac is using peds? NO!

Has mosley been associated with balco or other co. That involved with steroids? YES!

Are there any evidence or witness that can prove that mosley is using peds? YES!

See the big difference?

Actually I don't see the difference. People keep on saying that Manny never failed a test well the same can be said for Shane Mosley regardless of Balco.

The point is neither man has failed a drug test. Regardless of if you or anybody feels its disrespectful or ***** made for Manny to be asked to take better drug testing the point is neither Manny or Shane Mosley has failed a drug test.

With that said would a person have more of a reason to ask Mosley to take those test? YES of course.

But nobody should just say well Manny shouldn't be asked to take those tests because he never failed a drug test. I say that because as well all know a known drug user passed those same test that Manny has with drugs in his system.

[PrinceCharlez]

manny was 145-147 fight night since his LW days. so no, he didnt gain 16lbs in 6mos. he was draining himself back then.

Manny weighed 148 fight night against Oscar de la hoya...Thats the weight he walked from his dressing room to the ring. He went from 135 to 148 in 6 months...

Go to 2:20 and listen..




Soon as you click play...you'll see what Manny's weight really was..he went from 135 to 148 in 6 months...

[romaq7705]

Actually I don't see the difference. People keep on saying that Manny never failed a test well the same can be said for Shane Mosley regardless of Balco.

The point is neither man has failed a drug test. Regardless of if you or anybody feels its disrespectful or ***** made for Manny to be asked to take better drug testing the point is neither Manny or Shane Mosley has failed a drug test.

With that said would a person have more of a reason to ask Mosley to take those test? YES of course.

But nobody should just say well Manny shouldn't be asked to take those tests because he never failed a drug test. I say that because as well all know a known drug user passed those same test that Manny has with drugs in his system.

ok. i'll bite. what you wrote is true. both manny and shane passed all the tests.

the question is, what test? manny agreed to the 14 day cutoff that floyd offered. now, that isn't good enough and floyd wants blood testing all the way up to the day before the fight.

how is this fair? the blood tests for shane and floyd ended 18 days before the fight. clearly the usada thinks that is enough- despite the fact that shane is a confessed user. 18 day cutoff is enough and the 14 day cutoff is well within this window.

now, if you're one with those agreeing with floyd that they should draw blood up to the day before the fight, pls explain.

[Twako]

Manny weighed 148 fight night against Oscar de la hoya...Thats the weight he walked from his dressing room to the ring. He went from 135 to 148 in 6 months...

Go to 2:20 and listen..




Soon as you click play...you'll see what Manny's weight really was..he went from 135 to 148 in 6 months...

thats too bad you missed my point. let's try this again slowly. manny was weighing in at 144-147 fight night already, the same as your DLH example, even during his LW days. so what that tell you. i dont need to guide you every step of the way, or do i?

[goldenglove2]

thats too bad you missed my point. let's try this again slowly. manny was weighing in at 144-147 fight night already, the same as your DLH example, even during his LW days. so what that tell you. i dont need to guide you every step of the way, or do i?

^^^^^^^^ this.

[PrinceCharlez]

huh? clean manny's system? when was was it dirty? he passed all his tests and he agreed to floyd's offer of 14 days cut off? why did floyd fight? apparently this isn't good enough and floyd wants to test up to a day before the fight.

why does he want this when the usada thought it was good enough to test him and shane 18 days out. notwithstanding shane is a confessed user.

why? kindly tell me again floyd's basis for the tests?

If Manny was on roids, and he was randomly tested, do you think he would still be taking them IF he knew he was being tested? i doubt it. Thus he would be cleaning his system. IF manny is or was clean, taking a test wouldnt stop nothing. Hell he could've took the test, proved he was clean and beat Floyd...How great would that have been, knowing he was 100% legit?

Thing is.....That never happened

[romaq7705]

Manny weighed 148 fight night against Oscar de la hoya...Thats the weight he walked from his dressing room to the ring. He went from 135 to 148 in 6 months...

man, pls be consistent. you claim manny weighed 148 went he stepped in the ring with oscar. that's debatable but let's run with it.

then you use his weigh in weight when he fought diaz (135) to make your case. apples and apples. you should use his weight when stepped in the ring with diaz, should you not?

and what's that weight? 141? see, your 13 lbs is suspect at best.

[PrinceCharlez]

thats too bad you missed my point. let's try this again slowly. manny was weighing in at 144-147 fight night already, the same as your DLH example, even during his LW days. so what that tell you. i dont need to guide you every step of the way, or do i?

So let me understand you. What your saying is that Manny was already that big? So all this "Manny fights bigger guys" is bull ****? Cuz according to you, he was draining himself? So the catch weights are to weaken his opponents given the fact that he already weighed 147 against Cotto? And basically Hatton fought a 147 natural WW Manny at 140?

Lol...I dont think u understand..