Devon Alexander won a close fight....that simple

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  • Kevin Malone
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    Judging from ringsideand judging from TV are two completely diferent things
    Bob Papa had the fight going to Kotelnik.

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      #32
      Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
      Some fans need to get a clear understanding on what a ROBBERY is. Losing a close fight isnt a ROBBERY, but beating a fighter majority of the the rounds and losing is a ROBBERY.

      Last night's fight between Alexander & Kotelnik was a close fight and IMO could've went either way. I had Alexander clearly winning the majority of the rounds the first half of the fight. Kotelnik's pressure style was taking a toll on Alexander and he clearly won the majority of the rounds the second half of the fight. No fighter IMO was getting beat clearly so the fight could've went either way or been a draw. I didnt agree with none of the score cards last night and thought the fight was way closer. Both fighters fought a sloppy fight and didnt impress me not one bit.

      Alex had home court advantage and pulled it off at the end. That goes to show you, "never leave your fate in the judges hands"...just never know what can happen..
      yes he did but the wide scoring was quite disconcerting.
      should of been a draw. devon would of kept his belt.
      and kotelnik would of got more deserved statis.
      and we wouldnt have had all these repeatative threads.

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      • Ray*
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        #33
        To be frank i dont give a toss what anyone else think about my scorecard i scored it 7-5 to alexander on first viewing on a stream, I feel Kotelnik was more effective but he didnt push enough to take the win.

        He had alexander in trouble so many times but he let him get away with it, I dont blame anyone who scores it to Kotelnik either but on my card Alexander just did enough to keep his belts.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Kevin Malone
          Bob Papa had the fight going to Kotelnik.
          You do realize most of the people talking **** saw the fight from a piss poor stream which is no way to judge a fight, and why doe a play by play guys score matter that much, scoring is in the eye of the beholder and having Kotelnik winning is fine as the fight wasn't clear cut.

          I don't care what anyone other than the judges and myself have to say, it was a close fight and the judge score fell within the realm of acceptability (the fight could have went 8-4 either way) so I don't care that much about argueing the scores since everything is fine with me.
          Last edited by The Gambler1981; 08-08-2010, 01:50 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            You do realize most of the people talking **** saw the fight from a piss poor stream which is no way to judge a fight, and why doe a play by play guys score matter that much, scoring is in the eye of the beholder and having Kotelnik winning is fine as the fight wasn't clear cut.

            I don't care what anyone other than the judges and myself have to say, it was a close fight and the judge score fell within the realm of acceptability
            (the fight could have went 8-4 either way) so I don't care that much about argueing the scores since everything is fine with me.
            Thats what i hate about these boards, the fight was very close IMO and i wouldnt question anyone that actually scored it to either fighter, I myself had it to alexander but Kotelnik could have got it too especially watching it from a stream etc

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              #36
              I thought Alexander clearly won. He was hurt and got beat up but people have to realize and understand how to score rounds. If Kotelnik lands a couple hard shots that hurt Alexander in the round, but Alexander is controlling and outworking him the vast majority of the round, the round goes to Alexander. It's really that simple. You don't score fights on if someone was hurt or not.

              Max Kellerman kept saying the way to score is "who would you have rather of been that round" lol that's not how you score rounds though!

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                #37
                Originally posted by bishop2006
                Exactly,Kotelnik would land two,three SOLID punches a round,and people think that grants him to win the fight? Cumon man,even if Alexander is missing alot,hes still outworking him,u gotta take the title,if this was the case,Margarito beat Paul Williams then? NOpe
                This would be fair if Kotelnik landed maybe 2 or 3 solid punches, but he landed several each round. Every jab seemed to flush on Alexander's face.

                Even in the rounds Alexander won early, Kotelnik was landing well timed jabs that snapped Alexander's head back.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Thats what i hate about these boards, the fight was very close IMO and i wouldnt question anyone that actually scored it to either fighter, I myself had it to alexander but Kotelnik could have got it too especially watching it from a stream etc
                  A stream would make it easier to score for Alexander, who was hitting arms on a lot of his punches.

                  I understand the workrate thing too, but Kotelnik landed a lot more than a few clean punches each round. he landed several.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    To be frank i dont give a toss what anyone else think about my scorecard i scored it 7-5 to alexander on first viewing on a stream, I feel Kotelnik was more effective but he didnt push enough to take the win.

                    He had alexander in trouble so many times but he let him get away with it, I dont blame anyone who scores it to Kotelnik either but on my card Alexander just did enough to keep his belts.
                    watch it again bro, am sure youl change youre mind

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ИATAS206

                      Max Kellerman kept saying the way to score is "who would you have rather of been that round" lol that's not how you score rounds though!
                      Max generally qualifies when he says that is not really how you should score rounds, but it is the whole thing about how everyone scores fights differently because it is based on what a person likes.

                      Max likes guys who do more damage.
                      Lederman likes guys who push the action
                      Merchant likes guys that take care of his bloodlust.

                      All three are kind of the same but can be very different in any one fight.

                      People do look at fight judging as very cut and dry though when it is not an easy task.
                      Last edited by The Gambler1981; 08-08-2010, 04:46 PM.

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