Blocked punches can still do damage and tire you out

[Steak]

it seems to be a popular misconception on here that just because you block a punch, it doesnt do any damage whatsoever. Its obviously much less than getting hit flush on the face(and therefor definitely worth the while), but for anyone thats actually boxed, your arms get tired out from deflecting punches and its not uncommon at all for your forearms to bump against your head or body while blocking, and that damage does build up over time.

does that mean that someone should simply score the fight for whoever throws the most punches? ABSOLUTELY NOT. In fact, I probably favor clean punching more than most people.
but I just want to point out that while the damage is minimized, a successful block does not automatically eliminate all the damage done from a punch. You have to watch closely to see how much damage from the punch still gets through the guard: sometimes there really isnt any, because the punch is deflected off completely, but often the guard simply 'eats up' the punch, which still hurts over time.

in no way am I trying to judge the fight last night(I havent even seen it), but Ive been meaning to make this thread for a while, and I just think its a strategic time to bring it up.

[Iceta Lives]

True I guess. But punches that graze gloves or hit air do no damage. And that's the kind of punches that came from Alexander.

[{Pito}]

Of course, gtake Edwin Valero, he wouldn't hit you with only clean shots. If he hit your arm he was thinking I'm taking out one of his arms. A hit is a hit, damage is damage.

[Story]

Give it up dude. Alexander wasn't landing and he got whooped. Kotelnik didn't seem tired at all by all of Alexanders failed attempts at connecting.

[Pugilistic™]

I agree.

When it comes to scoring though, blocked shots don't count for anything.

[HandSpeed303]

it seems to be a popular misconception on here that just because you block a punch, it doesnt do any damage whatsoever. Its obviously much less than getting hit flush on the face(and therefor definitely worth the while), but for anyone thats actually boxed, your arms get tired out from deflecting punches and its not uncommon at all for your forearms to bump against your head or body while blocking, and that damage does build up over time.

does that mean that someone should simply score the fight for whoever throws the most punches? ABSOLUTELY NOT. In fact, I probably favor clean punching more than most people.
but I just want to point out that while the damage is minimized, a successful block does not automatically eliminate all the damage done from a punch. You have to watch closely to see how much damage from the punch still gets through the guard: sometimes there really isnt any, because the punch is deflected off completely, but often the guard simply 'eats up' the punch, which still hurts over time.

in no way am I trying to judge the fight last night(I havent even seen it), but Ive been meaning to make this thread for a while, and I just think its a strategic time to bring it up.

I don't think that is the point people are making...Blocked punches should not be scored...

[Steak]

example of what Im talking about: (because I happened to be watching the fight while I made this thread)


go to 4:00. see the left uppercut Maidana throws, that hits Kotelnik's right guard? technically, thats a block, and that was not a landed punch. but you can also see Kotelnik's forearm/glove jam into his head, bouncing it upward. That doesnt feel good, although obviously it would have hurt a hell of a lot more if he hadnt done.

again, I have no idea what kind of punches Alexander was throwing last night, I didnt see the fight last night.

[{Pito}]

Give it up dude. Alexander wasn't landing and he got whooped. Kotelnik didn't seem tired at all by all of Alexanders failed attempts at connecting.

Agreed, Devon's Shots wether blocked or grazing did nothing he's just not that type of fighter. Valero, Tyson, Duran, those were fighters that regardless of them being blocked or grazing you're going to feel them.

[BoxingTech718]

it seems to be a popular misconception on here that just because you block a punch, it doesnt do any damage whatsoever. Its obviously much less than getting hit flush on the face(and therefor definitely worth the while), but for anyone thats actually boxed, your arms get tired out from deflecting punches and its not uncommon at all for your forearms to bump against your head or body while blocking, and that damage does build up over time.

does that mean that someone should simply score the fight for whoever throws the most punches? ABSOLUTELY NOT. In fact, I probably favor clean punching more than most people.
but I just want to point out that while the damage is minimized, a successful block does not automatically eliminate all the damage done from a punch. You have to watch closely to see how much damage from the punch still gets through the guard: sometimes there really isnt any, because the punch is deflected off completely, but often the guard simply 'eats up' the punch, which still hurts over time.

in no way am I trying to judge the fight last night(I havent even seen it), but Ive been meaning to make this thread for a while, and I just think its a strategic time to bring it up.

Not only that but a strong puncher can actually damage the arms and shoulders of another fighter. That's why the best defense is to not get hit at all.

[RimmyDelicious]

Kellerman and Papa made the point numerous times during both fights last night, that although the 4 main criteria of clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship and defense are how you properly score rounds, there is something to be said for the "who would you rather have been that round?" approach. In that regard, there were only 2 rounds I wouldn't have preferred to be Kotelnik than Alexander.