Chad Dawson is the Best Fighter in Boxing

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

This dude is a fucking joke.

Dawson-Johnson 1 ring a fucking bell?

Wait let me guess you're going to tell me that Glen Johnson is better than Martinez now.

Clown.

[Spray_resistant]

Its too bad that Cloud won but didn't really make a statement, I had him up 7-5 but it easily could have been a draw.

If he won more impressively it would really have made him look threatening to Dawson.

[Shadows]

Do you know what tangibles are? If you did, you'd know it entailed far more than skill.

Yes, gain some weight. Williams has the frame to add sufficient enough weigh to fight at Middle, Super Middle, and Light Heavy. He however chooses to prey on significantly smaller fighters. It's pathetic.

Do you even know what you're typing? I clearly stated Williams has the frame to add weight.

You just said Williams was more skilled than Pac, and you're going to insult someones boxing IQ? **** outta here.

To be fair Hannibal, many fighters now cut a lot of weight and fight smaller guys in that respect or fight guys that much smaller than them in terms of reach, height, etc.

[Iceta Lives]

Its too bad that Cloud won but didn't really make a statement, I had him up 7-5 but it easily could have been a draw.

If he won more impressively it would really have made him look threatening to Dawson.

I had Johnson beating the kid's ass. His face looked like it had been through a meat grinder, and after 8 rounds it was even. I had Johnson winning the ninth round with those peppering punches while Cloud was doing nothing. The tenth since he cut Cloud over his eye. The 11th was a Cloud round. And I thought Johnson won the twelfth round. I thought Cloud shoulda lost.

[Iceta Lives]

This dude is a fucking joke.

Dawson-Johnson 1 ring a fucking bell?

Wait let me guess you're going to tell me that Glen Johnson is better than Martinez now.

Clown.

He has a better resume than Martinez does even though he's got a lot of losses he should've gotten the benefit of the doubt with. But yeah, you're right. Some of these people have horrible double standards.

[Hannibal Barca]

Show me when I said he was more skilled than Pac.

Are you ****ing ******? Pack 30 Pounds on Williams? Whats next? Lets Pack 20 Pounds on Caballero and put him at 154.

Where the hell do you people come from?

This dude weighed in at 157 for 160 and 152 for 154 but you want him at 175 Pounds to fought guys like Dawson who blow up to 185 Plus?

No one just goes out and throws on 30 pounds for the hell of it. If you knew anything about him you would know that hes able to weigh so low because of his metabolism.

Who the **** wants to watch a fat Paul Williams. Damn you people are ******.

Perhaps you should recalculate, because 15 lbs is far less than 30, and completely manageable for someone with a 6'1-6'3 frame.

Cabllero isn't north of 6'1, and doesn't have the same frame as Williams. Not comparable in the least.

Plenty of athletes easily throw on 15lbs of solid muscle, maintain their speed and quickness, all the while becoming stronger and more durable. It's simple with a good strength and conditioning coach. As I said, athletes do it all the time.

6'3 175 is fat? Then why aren't Andre Ward, Andre Dirrell, Tovaris Cloud, Lucian Bute, Chad Dawson, and tons of others fat? Don't even get me started on the horde of Football players who are chiseled at 6'3 220 and above.

No, what I wanna see is Paul Williams fighting fighters his size. Not challenging people who are 5'8-5'10.

[Spray_resistant]

I had Johnson beating the kid's ass. His face looked like it had been through a meat grinder, and after 8 rounds it was even. I had Johnson winning the ninth round with those peppering punches while Cloud was doing nothing. The tenth since he cut Cloud over his eye. The 11th was a Cloud round. And I thought Johnson won the twelfth round. I thought Cloud shoulda lost.

It ended up close either way but you had to know if it was close they were going to go with Cloud but the 112-116 scores across the board told me that they all had their cards printed out a week before the fight.

Still what does this do for Cloud really? I don't think he impressed anyone and looked very inexperienced. To me he looked much like Shumenov with a bit more pop.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Perhaps you should recalculate, because 15 lbs is far less than 30, and completely manageable for someone with a 6'1-6'3 frame.

Cabllero isn't north of 6'1, and doesn't have the same frame as Williams. Not comparable in the least.

Plenty of athletes easily throw on 15lbs of solid muscle, maintain their speed and quickness, all the while becoming stronger and more durable. It's simple with a good strength and conditioning coach. As I said, athletes do it all the time.

6'3 175 is fat? Then why aren't Andre Ward, Andre Dirrell, Tovaris Cloud, Lucian Bute, Chad Dawson, and tons of others fat? Don't even get me started on the horde of Football players who are chiseled at 6'3 220 and above.

No, what I wanna see is Paul Williams fighting fighters his size. Not challenging people who are 5'8-5'10.

Whats the height limit for the following weight classes:

WW
JMW
MW


Thanks in advance.

[Hannibal Barca]

To be fair Hannibal, many fighters now cut a lot of weight and fight smaller guys in that respect or fight guys that much smaller than them in terms of reach, height, etc.

That's true, and I understand that(even though I hate fights with severe size discrepancies), but do me a favor if you will. List as many athletes as you can, not just boxers, who are around 6'3 and weigh less than 160. My bet is that you can't name more than 5, because it isn't natural, and in most cases, it's unhealthy.

[Iceta Lives]

It ended up close either way but you had to know if it was close they were going to go with Cloud but the 112-116 scores across the board told me that they all had their cards printed out a week before the fight.

Still what does this do for Cloud really? I don't think he impressed anyone and looked very inexperienced. To me he looked much like Shumenov with a bit more pop.

I think Chad would beat Cloud, but with Cloud's power and Dawson's style of not being a pressure fighter there's always that chance he lowers the boom on Dawson. He had Johnson hurt bad and I thought that was one thing he did to raise some eyebrows. But the dude's stamina is overrated because he took rounds off during the fight and seemed to be in survival mode after Johnson rocked him in the twelfth.