So Kendall Holt sucks now? lol WTF....

[SkillspayBills]

Kendall Holt had probably the most talent at 140. Speed, power, reflexes, top notch boxing ability. He just was INCREDIBLY undisciplined and wouldn't throw his beautiful jab or punch enough to win rounds.

[BoxerDood]

those losers are just going to boxrec looking up records then coming back and Posting "this or that fighter is not that good" lol

or they go on youtube see a clip or two then comeback and post "This Fighter Is Not That Good"

it is amazing to me how people are so quick to point out the weakness of other fighters but when it comes to their own favorite fighters they are absolutely BLIND to the favorite fighter weaknesses and most of the hate is coming from Undercover Khan fans who are mad at the fact that Khan is not getting the respect they want him to get and some NEW Alexander fans

Exactly. I'll openly admit that my favorite fighter doesn't have enough pop to be competitive at 147, needs a better trainer if he wants to go anywhere and needs to focus more on boxing instead of slugging because he makes a lot of mistakes when he slugs. Heck I'll even admit that I believe Amir Khan would beat Bradley right now. But other people act like their favorite fighter is god and discredit the careers of fighters who oppose them. Guys like Kendall Holt, Juan Urango and Lamont Peterson are all solid opposition, and Devon and Bradley deserve all the credit in the world for beating them, especially the way they did. Bradley would never in his life KO Urango, and Alexander would struggle against Peterson's style. So both have their own great qualities.

[Walker Smiff]

Holt's just got heavy hands. That last Torres fight he won by headbutt-hook combo.

Mabuza just knocked that fool out. Bum chin, no heart, and poor desire out weigh what skill and heavy handedness he does have.

First time I saw he he was getting knocked out by an old bum in Chicago. B-level.

[bcfc]

Exactly. I'll openly admit that my favorite fighter doesn't have enough pop to be competitive at 147, needs a better trainer if he wants to go anywhere and needs to focus more on boxing instead of slugging because he makes a lot of mistakes when he slugs. Heck I'll even admit that I believe Amir Khan would beat Bradley right now. But other people act like their favorite fighter is god and discredit the careers of fighters who oppose them. Guys like Kendall Holt, Juan Urango and Lamont Peterson are all solid opposition, and Devon and Bradley deserve all the credit in the world for beating them, especially the way they did. Bradley would never in his life KO Urango, and Alexander would struggle against Peterson's style. So both have their own great qualities.

real talk right here, i hate nuthuggers......

[BoxerDood]

Holt's just got heavy hands. That last Torres fight he won by headbutt-hook combo.

Mabuza just knocked that fool out. Bum chin, no heart, and poor desire out weigh what skill and heavy handedness he does have.

First time I saw he he was getting knocked out by an old bum in Chicago. B-level.

Did you even read my post? He was dangerously weight drained in that fight. Imagine Kermit Cintron or Alfredo Angulo trying to cut down to 140. Mabuza would knock them out in that scenario too. That's how much he struggles to make weight. He was supposed to return at 147 on Ward-Green's undercard but he couldn't even make 147.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Kendall Holt had probably the most talent at 140. Speed, power, reflexes, top notch boxing ability. He just was INCREDIBLY undisciplined and wouldn't throw his beautiful jab or punch enough to win rounds.

Couldn't have said it better, and nice avy

You always deliver

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

You don't know boxing, Kendall Holt is a solid fighter and was a world champion.

A focused Kendall Holt is a danger to anyone at 140.

Exactly, man.


These Khan homers know **** about boxing.


I've been swatting off these Holt comments for months.


I'd love to see how easily Khan handles that version of Holt @ 140, hypothetically.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Holt's just got heavy hands. That last Torres fight he won by headbutt-hook combo.

That was a legit win. Head-clashes happen all the time in boxing. All the head-clash did was leave Torres open, it was the punch that sparked him.


Add in that the stoppage and circumstances of the first fight with Torres were shady as hell.


Torres is the same fighter who almost stopped Miguel Cotto and gave him hell for 7 rounds, too. So there's no shame at all in being in a life and death battle with that guy.

[Fearless Angel]

Now Khan/Alexander Fans are saying he sucks? lol the guy beats an undefeated Hlatschwayo and D. Hopkins on short notice, KOs Diaz (also undefeated and did it just as fast as Pacquiao) and gives Torres the war of his life twice and he sucks? And don't give me that "He was scared to do a trilogy" crap. They were scheduled to do it, but Torres couldn't make weight and moved up to JMW before retiring.

Does he have the best chin in the world? No. But saying he sucks is ******ed. The uppercut he landed on Bradley would KO or leave just about any other fighter on noodle legs. And his last fight shouldn't even be accounted for. The guy was so weight drained that night that he can't even make 147 right now! He was scheduled to face Feliciano at 147 on Andre Ward's undercard and was so out of shape that his trainer believed he would have taken the same beating if they hadn't pulled out. Expect him to return at 154. So imagine a JMW like Kermit Cintron trying to drain down to 140. Do you think he'd beat Kaizer Mabuza? Hell no. And it's not like Mabuza landed one punch that changed the fight. Holt was beating him in the first two rounds until he gassed and that's when Mabuza took over, which wouldn't have happened if he made 140 effectively.

I look at Holt the same way I look at Judah. Very skilled, but lacks discipline.

Agreed. To me Holt has the skills to be a top 5 jr. welterweight right now but he lacks discipline and is lazy with his career. For whatever reason he doesn't take boxing serious anymore.

But he's definitely a very good fighter: great power, good hand speed, moves well around the ring and overall a very good technical fighter.

[Walker Smiff]

Did you even read my post? He was dangerously weight drained in that fight. Imagine Kermit Cintron or Alfredo Angulo trying to cut down to 140. Mabuza would knock them out in that scenario too. That's how much he struggles to make weight. He was supposed to return at 147 on Ward-Green's undercard but he couldn't even make 147.

Thats his own fault. Lazy, no heart and it shows in the ring. I'm sick of so-call professionals saying their having hard times making weight in the class they fought their entire career in.

Where do you get Angulo from? He's always fought at jr mid. The vast majority of Holt's career has been at 140. Only a lazy fighter would have problems with staying at their native weight.