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Originally posted by Talisayen View PostGood for Floyd but how come he's too scared to fight?
If Floyd is that good and even proclaimed himself as the greatest fighter of all time then why duck a midget fighter with inferior accomplishments compared to him?
Why won't he just fight? Well we pretty much know the answer to that question, the answers will vary but its pretty simple.
Answer: Floyd feels Manny is cheating, standard boxing tests cant/won't declare Pac or Floyd clean. Hence the Random blood and urine, which Manny refuses to take part in FULLY. NO TEST, NO FIGHT.
Why after 40 fights, Floyd all of a sudden wants to clean up the sport?
Same answer as above..................
As for Manny........
Why won't he just FULLY take part in testing?.....
The difference between Manny and Floyds reaasons are simple as well, if you look at it from a simple view.
Floyds request is a request to fight, Mannys seem like an excuse not to test. They both want the fight/pay day. They both want to prove they are the best of our era.............
Shane took part in the testing, the same Shane that
1. Murdered Margs
2. That people dared him to face.
3. The same Shane he's been accused of ducking and was "scared of"
If Shane had refused to test and Floyd didn't fight him, the same people who hold Floyd to the higher standard would be saying he's ducking Shane. But Shane took part in the test, and we witnessed the results.
Shane is OLD, well Shane was OLD when u dared Floyd to face him.
Shane is past his Prime, if they'd fought 3 to 4 years ago, Shane would've murdered Floyd. I doubt it, Shane is Shane. No adjustments, Floyd is constant adjustments. We all saw that as the fight went on, it got easier and easier for Floyd.
So in a nutshell, if Manny would have taken part in FULL testing from jump, the fight would have been made.
PS. P4P is not divs, belts, popularity or being undefeated, its based on ALL AROUND SKILLS. And Floyd is all around more skilled than Manny, by far. And Mannys style can be beaten, its been proven. P4P is also a measure of can your style compete in any class, Floyd has proven his can, based soley on his abilty to adjust his style.
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your stats dont take into account quality of fighters faced, that is what decides the p4p rankings which is why pac is right number 1
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Originally posted by EMACULATE View PostIs it Floyd who is scared or is it Manny. Lets see
Floyd scared of who Margarito and Cotto maybe.
Pac scared of Mosley and Marquez, Bradley, Soto, Alexander, Berto, Holt, Campbell, Witter and Diaz. Instead he fought Hatton and D Diaz.
You tell me who is scared.
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Originally posted by cixthree View PostWhy do people ask "why" of Floyd and not Manny?
Why won't he just fight? Well we pretty much know the answer to that question, the answers will vary but its pretty simple.
Answer: Floyd feels Manny is cheating, standard boxing tests cant/won't declare Pac or Floyd clean. Hence the Random blood and urine, which Manny refuses to take part in FULLY. NO TEST, NO FIGHT.
Why after 40 fights, Floyd all of a sudden wants to clean up the sport?
Same answer as above..................
As for Manny........
Why won't he just FULLY take part in testing?.....
The difference between Manny and Floyds reaasons are simple as well, if you look at it from a simple view.
Floyds request is a request to fight, Mannys seem like an excuse not to test. They both want the fight/pay day. They both want to prove they are the best of our era.............
Shane took part in the testing, the same Shane that
1. Murdered Margs
2. That people dared him to face.
3. The same Shane he's been accused of ducking and was "scared of"
If Shane had refused to test and Floyd didn't fight him, the same people who hold Floyd to the higher standard would be saying he's ducking Shane. But Shane took part in the test, and we witnessed the results.
Shane is OLD, well Shane was OLD when u dared Floyd to face him.
Shane is past his Prime, if they'd fought 3 to 4 years ago, Shane would've murdered Floyd. I doubt it, Shane is Shane. No adjustments, Floyd is constant adjustments. We all saw that as the fight went on, it got easier and easier for Floyd.
So in a nutshell, if Manny would have taken part in FULL testing from jump, the fight would have been made.
PS. P4P is not divs, belts, popularity or being undefeated, its based on ALL AROUND SKILLS. And Floyd is all around more skilled than Manny, by far. And Mannys style can be beaten, its been proven. P4P is also a measure of can your style compete in any class, Floyd has proven his can, based soley on his abilty to adjust his style.
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Originally posted by yevskiy426 View PostFunny part is they only mention things that Floyd has done better but forget to mention
The FOTD award
The amount of lineal chips won
And FOTY awards won
Delicious fish and chips! Don't overeat, might make you a fat bigot! Oh wait...
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Originally posted by Rolaz View PostFloyd coming out of retirement, fought two aging champs one from Lightweight and another from welterweight;
When he fought Shane Mosley then ranked #3P4P, and won by UD,
Floyd was suddenly elevated to #1PFP,
By-passing then #1P4P Pacman!
There ought to be Main CRITERIA in the selection of #1PFP Boxer!
When we say "Pound for Pound", the Best should be the one who won the most number of World Titles in different weight Divisions!
A "world record" is more difficult to accomplIsh than a "Undefeated record"!
Today there's only one boxer who holds the 7 world titles in diff. divisions;
While there are many up and coming Boxers toting undefeated records!
prettyBOY isn't the only boxer with UNDEFEATED records!
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