A Question To The People Against Random Drug Testing

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  • TheBaadshah
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    #81
    Originally posted by 007geyweather
    Is he a cop? he is just a boxer.

    The thing is if a civilian pull you over and tells you you are drinking and driving and wants you to walk straigh and needs you phone # to do it random. nah don't even worry about the random he just wants you to talk straight will you walk out your car and do what he wants you to do or tell him to *** off?
    You're missing the point, I was replying to someone who said Floyd is accusing Manny without evidence, to which I replied that he is su****ious, which is different from accusing.

    As for the evidence part, sometimes it is only provided with the cooperation of the suspected.

    The cop scenario was an example, that you don't necessarily need evidence before you suspect someone.

    The civilian example you've just given does not relate to the May-Pacq situation. If a civilian suspects that I am drinking and driving, he should call the cops, because a cop will never shrug off a complaint like that, even if there is minimal doubt. Within minutes of the phone call, a cop will pull me over.

    The reason that differs from the May-Pacq situation is because even though Mayweather has discussed his concerns about Pacquiao, NSAC doesn't feel it is necessary to put both fighters through OST (unless both fighters agree). This despite the FACT that urine tests are not able to detect peds that a random blood test without cut-off dates is.

    In the cop situation, the suspected isn't given a choice of whether he wants to prove his innocence.

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    • TheBaadshah
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      #82
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      Another child analogy , most of you fellas are nothing but fanboy groupies its ok for Manny to bend the rules with his constant weight draining of fighters for their titles what a ***en joke that is , I,ll fight Klit at lightweight for his HW title lol .

      PEDS testing is of big concern in all of sport , boxing has one of the weakest systems in all of sport and it will be a great day for the sport when its upgraded to world standard , Floyd wants his fights to be under very strict drug testing so there will be no cheating in his fights and he has a right to ask for it .
      Well stated.

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      • Boy Nympho
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        #83
        Not a matter of people against it. But right now, its up to the boxers if they would agree to undergo this or not because its unofficial.


        If both fighters agree, great. If one doesnt want to take this test, then it should be fine as well.

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        • wizard king
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          #84
          Originally posted by 007geyweather
          Is he a cop? he is just a boxer.

          The thing is if a civilian pull you over and tells you you are drinking and driving and wants you to walk straigh and needs you phone # to do it random. nah don't even worry about the random he just wants you to talk straight will you walk out your car and do what he wants you to do or tell him to *** off?
          you got to be one of the ******est mother****ers on this site. this is boxing and the test methods are a joke. if you think those test are fool proof you are really on that crack. i could give two ****s what may thinks with his ost but one thing is for sure the current drug test are not working.

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          • Reloaded
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            #85
            Originally posted by Boy Nympho
            Not a matter of people against it. But right now, its up to the boxers if they would agree to undergo this or not because its unofficial.


            If both fighters agree, great. If one doesnt want to take this test, then it should be fine as well.
            It is fine if Manny dont want the testing its his choice , but to think people wont look at him very su****iously as to why he dont want it with so much to gain in this fight is very nieve , only fans swallow his changing of storys starting with superstition then his lame needle scares , droppd that like a hot potato with the Tattoo video lol , finally settling on the it makes me weak excuse , lol what a lame excuse , really only a fool would entertain such blatent bull**** to get out of testing for PEDS in the biggest fight in the last 50 years , yep Manny has a right to say he dont want to be tested just the same as Floyd has a right to ask for it .

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            • ADP02
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              #86
              Originally posted by TheBaadshah
              No actually, what you mention is not a clear case of what I speak of..you're trying to twist my words around..

              As you can see, I've written unfair advantage. Point out to me where Floyd had an unfair advantage over Hernandez...if anything, Hernandez had the advantage over Floyd because both his hands were in pain..

              If you are trying to prove Floyd had an advantage over his opponent, you've chosen the wrong example...if this was a case where his hands were perfectly healthy and he still used Novocaine, then I would side with you..
              I can't say if he had pain or maybe he used the drug in case it would happen during the fight (precautionary reasons) or maybe he realizes it gives him no discomfort when he punches very hard. Only Floyd can answer that.


              Just like other drugs, it allows a boxer to do something they wouldn't be able to if they didn't use that drug.

              Floyd applies it to the hands. That is what is being used to do as much damage as possible to the other opponent. By using drugs, Floyd could hit harder than otherwise possible. So that is a gained advantage that he had due to the drugs and not from what he likes to say "hard work".

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