how can you call yourself the best when you fight damaged opponents at catchweights?

**CarlosG815** · 08-04-2010, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by JK1700

I want to know, How can Manny Pacquiao call himself the best fighter in the world when he refuses to fight the best fighters (Mosley, Mayweather, Berto) and fights damaged opponents coming off bad losses (Cotto, Hatton, Morales and now Margarito) at catchweights instead? What happened to the saying "To be the best you have to beat the best"? That obviously doesnt exist anymore.

What has boxing come to that the best fighter in the sport is a guy who only fights people coming off losses at catchweights and REFUSES to fight Mayweather Jr just to avoid taking a blood test. I believe Pacquiao has damaged the sport alot and that he should retire for the good of boxing. Right now, The fight that everyone wants to see is not going to happen because the so called #1 p4p fighter in the sport refuses to be drug tested. I hate to say it, But if boxing continues like this and we get more fighters like Manny Pacquiao. I can see UFC taking over from boxing and becoming more popular and more mainstream.

The best thing about boxing is when we have the best fighters fighting each other. This is what makes up historic fights like Ali vs Frazier, Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Leonard and Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins. But now the best fighter in our sport is refusing to fight the best, Boxing is really struggling.

I also think it's very bad that alot of people are hypocrital on this issue, Floyd Mayweather Jr was criticized alot for "not fighting the best" even though he won titles and 5 weight classes and beat the official champion every time. In Pacquiao we have a guy who does not fight the official champions and elects to fight damaged opponents at catchweights for vacant paper belts. But people criticize Mayweather and praise Pacquiao. I'm from the UK and this just doesnt make sense to me, Floyd is arguably the greatest American boxer since Sugar Ray Leonard. But he get's no credit for beating the best and Pacquiao gets all the credit in the world for not beating the best. I just don't understand this.

Maybe somebody can help me out...

People like Manny's friendly smile, sweet laugh, and cute broken English.

**JK1700** · 08-04-2010, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by CarlosG815

People like Manny's friendly smile, sweet laugh, and cute broken English.

That's true. His fake image has fooled alot of people...

But seriously. How can he call himself the best?

He doesnt fight the best.

**SplitSecond** · 08-04-2010, 07:10 AM

i dont think manny calls himself the best, unlike that coward

**JK1700** · 08-04-2010, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by .-|Akrobatic|-.

i dont think manny calls himself the best, unlike that coward

He does call himself the best. *******s are too funny, You call Floyd a coward when he beat champions in 5 divisions. And you look at Pacquiao as a warrior, Even though he fights damaged, finished opponents at catchweights for belts that don't mean anything.

You've been brainwashed. It's fair to say.

I don't understand this, Floyd is willing to prove he is clean. Pacquiao is not but some dumb (they arent all dumb) Americans look at Floyd as the bad guy. In reality, Pacquiao is the bad guy who is hiding behind his fake image. This is part of what I like about Mayweather, He's real.

**Bushbaby** · 08-04-2010, 07:32 AM

In reality,both Floyd & Manny,yup both, have to ability to pick whoever their gonna fight at this point & at this point it's gonna be whoever they feel they can beat!!That's why the Punisher,Martinez,hell even Cintron will be on the outside looking in at 154!!Neither gets near Angulo,or the European cat because all those a-formentioned fighters have a really good chance of beating them!!Floyd might fight Cotto,Manny already has,fight fans should realize that though Manny & Floyd are the biggest stars,they are not the only elite fighters in their weight class,real talk!!

**ronniejunior** · 08-04-2010, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by JK1700

I want to know, How can Manny Pacquiao call himself the best fighter in the world when he refuses to fight the best fighters (Mosley, Mayweather, Berto) and fights damaged opponents coming off bad losses (Cotto, Hatton, Morales and now Margarito) at catchweights instead? What happened to the saying "To be the best you have to beat the best"? That obviously doesnt exist anymore.

What has boxing come to that the best fighter in the sport is a guy who only fights people coming off losses at catchweights and REFUSES to fight Mayweather Jr just to avoid taking a blood test. I believe Pacquiao has damaged the sport alot and that he should retire for the good of boxing. Right now, The fight that everyone wants to see is not going to happen because the so called #1 p4p fighter in the sport refuses to be drug tested. I hate to say it, But if boxing continues like this and we get more fighters like Manny Pacquiao. I can see UFC taking over from boxing and becoming more popular and more mainstream.

The best thing about boxing is when we have the best fighters fighting each other. This is what makes up historic fights like Ali vs Frazier, Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Leonard and Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins. But now the best fighter in our sport is refusing to fight the best, Boxing is really struggling.

I also think it's very bad that alot of people are hypocrital on this issue, Floyd Mayweather Jr was criticized alot for "not fighting the best" even though he won titles and 5 weight classes and beat the official champion every time. In Pacquiao we have a guy who does not fight the official champions and elects to fight damaged opponents at catchweights for vacant paper belts. But people criticize Mayweather and praise Pacquiao. I'm from the UK and this just doesnt make sense to me, Floyd is arguably the greatest American boxer since Sugar Ray Leonard. But he get's no credit for beating the best and Pacquiao gets all the credit in the world for not beating the best. I just don't understand this.

Maybe somebody can help me out...

sure i'll help you out...

u see it goes like this....manny is a media hype creation crafted by
bob arum, freddien roach and alex "special shakes" ariza...

historically the american public is easily fooled and will easily side with anyone
or anything not Black...

if mayweather was lets say kelley pavlik...he would not receive the criticism he receives and people would support his stance on OST...

america's hate for Black men, especially Black Champion athletes is so intense that they would rather support a "non-american" in manny pickquiao....

it is easy to play on manny's ethnicity as he is fillippino which translates to the whole of The Phillippines...which translates to mega bucks...
in short bob arum will continue to milk manny pickemaiou and his countrymen for as long as he can by allowing him to fight well known cheats at catchweights....

the american public will overlook this fact as their hate for Blacks clouds sound judgement and fairness...just look back at Jack Johnson's first title fight..the american media took the fight off the air right before Mr. Johnson was to KO a white guy to become the first Black Heavyweight Champion

in short this just isn't about racism its about capitalism too...and bobby arum is going to milk the manny pickemaiou train up until the mayweather fight if and when it does happens...

**Megamasterking** · 08-04-2010, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by JK1700

I want to know, How can Manny Pacquiao call himself the best fighter in the world when he refuses to fight the best fighters (Mosley, Mayweather, Berto) and fights damaged opponents coming off bad losses (Cotto, Hatton, Morales and now Margarito) at catchweights instead? What happened to the saying "To be the best you have to beat the best"? That obviously doesnt exist anymore.

What has boxing come to that the best fighter in the sport is a guy who only fights people coming off losses at catchweights and REFUSES to fight Mayweather Jr just to avoid taking a blood test. I believe Pacquiao has damaged the sport alot and that he should retire for the good of boxing. Right now, The fight that everyone wants to see is not going to happen because the so called #1 p4p fighter in the sport refuses to be drug tested. I hate to say it, But if boxing continues like this and we get more fighters like Manny Pacquiao. I can see UFC taking over from boxing and becoming more popular and more mainstream.

The best thing about boxing is when we have the best fighters fighting each other. This is what makes up historic fights like Ali vs Frazier, Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Leonard and Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins. But now the best fighter in our sport is refusing to fight the best, Boxing is really struggling.

I also think it's very bad that alot of people are hypocrital on this issue, Floyd Mayweather Jr was criticized alot for "not fighting the best" even though he won titles and 5 weight classes and beat the official champion every time. In Pacquiao we have a guy who does not fight the official champions and elects to fight damaged opponents at catchweights for vacant paper belts. But people criticize Mayweather and praise Pacquiao. I'm from the UK and this just doesnt make sense to me, Floyd is arguably the greatest American boxer since Sugar Ray Leonard. But he get's no credit for beating the best and Pacquiao gets all the credit in the world for not beating the best. I just don't understand this.

Maybe somebody can help me out...

I can, Floyd called himself The GAOT !!! while he is a good boxer he did lose his first fight against Castillo, the Judges cards are a disgrace, watch the fight if you haven't done it yet... SRL would have kill that Castillo, the "people" who calls Pacquiao the best are the people of the The Ring Magazine, if you want you can send your resume to The Ring and tell them that you're an expert and that they need you. But the reality is that Pacquiao would pressure Mayweather who is already scared, he would run, get caught with power punches and lose the fight. I started boxing 30 years ago and i respect why the experts of the Ring Magizine are saying that Pacquiao is the best, you should do the same.

**cortdawg25** · 08-04-2010, 08:08 AM

It's just blasphemy...but that hypetrain is soon to come to an end.

**ALG United** · 08-04-2010, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by ronniejunior

sure i'll help you out...

U see it goes like this....manny is a media hype creation crafted by
bob arum, freddien roach and alex "special shakes" ariza...

Historically the american public is easily fooled and will easily side with anyone
or anything not black...

If mayweather was lets say kelley pavlik...he would not receive the criticism he receives and people would support his stance on ost...

America's hate for black men, especially black champion athletes is so intense that they would rather support a "non-american" in manny pickquiao....

It is easy to play on manny's ethnicity as he is fillippino which translates to the whole of the phillippines...which translates to mega bucks...
In short bob arum will continue to milk manny pickemaiou and his countrymen for as long as he can by allowing him to fight well known cheats at catchweights....

The american public will overlook this fact as their hate for blacks clouds sound judgement and fairness...just look back at jack johnson's first title fight..the american media took the fight off the air right before mr. Johnson was to ko a white guy to become the first black heavyweight champion

in short this just isn't about racism its about capitalism too...and bobby arum is going to milk the manny pickemaiou train up until the mayweather fight if and when it does happens...

two racist agreeing with each other...

how can you call yourself the best when you fight damaged opponents at catchweights?