Comments Thread For: Arum: Marquez Beating Khan is Not Enough to Get Pacquiao

[WESS]

you guys need to read a little closer...

I'm not condoning the bull**** marg fight but arum is talking about competitiveness because marquez hasnt proven himself at and above 140 and margaputa has....

Nobody's arguing that JMM should fight Pac above 135. What people are saying is that Pac needs to move down to 135 or some catchweight REALLY REALLY close to 135.

Pac has no problem having all these bigger guys come to him. Whats the problem with Pac going down to meet with JMM?

[ForemanGrill]

marquez is a boring fighter.he is always waiting for his opponent to come in so he can score,just like mayweather,thats what he did to pac thats why he lost not only once but twice and you need another one???the agressive should be the winner always.

Looks like you don't understand what counterpunching is. Boxing is a lot more than two dudes punching each other in the face.

[Sugar Q]

Nobody's arguing that JMM should fight Pac above 135. What people are saying is that Pac needs to move down to 135 or some catchweight REALLY REALLY close to 135.

Pac has no problem having all these bigger guys come to him. Whats the problem with Pac going down to meet with JMM?

According to Pac and his team they can easily face Marquez@135-140 and this came right from their mouths. Pac******s will do and say anything to justify him not doing it but the reality is Pac himself said he didnt wanna face Marquez again in the Pac/Marquez 2 post fight interview. Pac is a fraud and all the talk of fighting PBF is just to bring attention to Pac and for headline grabbing.

[del515]

Pac makes everyone come to him I have NO PROBLEM what so ever agreeing that little man Pac SHOULD move down and face the guy that took him to hell twice.

Especially when everyone keeps using the term about Pac being too small and that everyone should move down to him. Well I say JMM is too small (Floyd proved this) and Pac should man up and move down to fight the man he avoided to fight that was a WEAK paper title holder in David Diaz.. Anyone notice he's doing the exact same thing now too? Avoiding legit 154 guys to face a guy that doesn't deserve the fight let a lone a title at 154 when he's only fought there twice in the past 6 years or so.

Picking and choosing his opponents at the weight they feel they get the advantages. Isn't this what Mayweather gets bashed for? Even though when Floyd ENTERED the 147 division back in 2006 he beat 2 out of the TOP 3 guys and then moved up to 154 to beat Hoya. None of these fights where at catchweights. Yet Floyd gets bashed for it?

Pac can clearly duck JMM for Diaz, Clearly avoid "too good" Mosley and walk away from Mayweather to fight in court in the first round of negotiations and that ALL gets overlooked?

JMM deserves a fight more than ANYONE. Arum doesn't want anything to do with technical fighters. Especially ones that are known to give Pac trouble. Let alone having boxing and technical abilities. Arum wants slow trotting, aggressive come forward style fighters who will go toe to toe..

HAHA I love the BS this was filled with. He faced Zab Judah and Baldomir. He didn't face SHane Mosley then nor did he face Cotto pre-retirement nor did he face Cory Spinks. We can also add that as he's already ventured into 154 he faced DLH. I don't see Pwill or Sergio Martinez on his resume either now do I.

Pac doesn't have to move down in weight anymore than Mayweather did. I go ahead and call Pac as a natural 143 lbs, pretty much the weight Roach says he walks around naturally. I like how all of you nuthuggers complain about 2 lbs on Cotto and 4 lbs on MArgarito and yet you want go ahead and call 8 lbs on Pac, seriously how ******ed of you.

Oh and if you look at history, Haymon, Schaeffer and DLH pretty much signed off on the fight pre-deadline with only one guy missing there. Yea its your boy Mayweather. I don't see Mayweather running to fight any legit opponent. I'll also refresh your memory and remind you Pac took Cotto who was the guy who took Mosley down. Clottey was locked in as Mosley was locked in with Berto. Berto withdrew due to Haiti's hurricane and allowed Mayweather to lock in a fight as THERE WAS NO OTHER LEGIT WW AVAILABLE OR JR WW AT THE TIME OTHER THAN MOSLEY. If you want to white-wash history, do it on your own time. JMM deserves a 3rd fight but if he can't fight at a weight where he's technically the B-side, then no, he doesn't deserve to negotiate the terms. Mayweather will always assume he's the A-side so what's the use going down that road when it comes to FM-Pac. Not the same in JMM-Pac and the idea of him beating at least Clottey is the fact that he's pretty much now a gatekeeper: he either proves he can complete at a legitimate level in WW or he can't. And the fact is if Pwill went down to 147 (despite all of his claims he can do so and be effective) and Pac beat him via points, all of the floyd nuthuggers would come out in force and say "OMG he just did another weight drain boo-hoo!". Fact is you just don't like Pac and blame him for whatever, it doesn't matter and I get that.

Next time you want to hate, remember that it was your boy in Mayweather that can't sign a dotted line and whenever something goes wrong a Mayweather has a convenient excuse as to why, whether it be Roger, Jr or Sr. Didn't want Mosley before? He uses drugs always. Didn't want Cotto before? Why he only brings all of Puerto Rico with him (sarcasm). Baldomir and Judah were great WW's? Well did we forgot Judah was coming off a loss to Baldomir and Pwill was also on the bottom of the list not ranked higher being unable to land a fight with anyone and Mayweather refused a deal to take Margarito to instead take Baldomir whose style was basically another Hatton? Oh and on that reference Hatton lost because he didn't listen to Mayweather Sr during training camp?

Leonard responded to the publics calls to face opponents. So did Ali. Robinson just went out and beat the **** out of everyone. Mayweather goes on to run his mouth and say "best ever" and isn't backing it up. His strongest defenders from Kevin Iole to Lyle Fitzsimmons have called him on it and its true that without a fight against Pac, for whatever reason, he'll always take a back seat to him and the whole lot of you nuthuggers can't change that either.

[WESS]

I couldn't bare to read all the nonsense you attempted to write. one things for sure as you didn't get the entire point.

Your not even worthy of an argument.

[sapaw]

I couldn't bare to read all the nonsense you attempted to write. one things for sure as you didn't get the entire point.

Your not even worthy of an argument.

usual scape rout of *****s, reading comprehension problem! lol

[Bigdaddy_Vh]

bob arum is full of ****. He is right though...beating Khan isnt enough to get him a shot at Pac. The two previous fight he had with pac are enough to get him a shot against Pac. Oh, marquez needs to fight an opponent thats a real threat ay? I seem to remember him fighting Mayweather somewhere....

[kingfaze19]

umm, i think marquez takin pacquiao to hell and back in both their fights should be enough to get the trilogy. i think he won the rematch too.

he says pacquiao has to beat all these names right ... so then what da fcck did margarito do to "earn" a shot a pacquiao ? gettin your license taken away for cheating should not award you the biggest payday of your career.

just cuz floyd beat jmm at 147 doesnt mean pac will, styles make fights and jmm's style gives manny plenty of trouble.

arum is once again proven to be a lying piece of shht.. first bradley is not a big enough name now marquez has to beat everybody to fight pac.

[spoonwars]

i remember JMM asking for 50/50 and OST after just gettin his ass kicked by floyd which was a bad move cause he doesn't have any leverage for those kind of demands. and as far as arum goes, marg got caught cheating then KTFO so wtf did he do to earn a shot a pac

arum did try to make the pac-marquez fight instead of clottey, but golden boy wanted to keep things in-house with that ****** offer for marquez. now golden boy's criticizing top rank of doing the same thing. they're all guilty of milking their fighters.

[brick wall]

i think JMM should just move on with his career without thinking Pac

khan, devon, bradley, katsidis should suffice

can't blame the guy...he's nearing retirement and the biggest payday for him out there is against pac.