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  • JBell11
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    #51
    Originally posted by disolly
    Ever wonder why ? Arum is a business man, JMM doesn't bring that much money to the table, considering he would only be co promoting. He will make fights outside house but only if it is financially worth it. But you don't build a guy like Manny into a 10-20 mil a fight guy so you can share the profits from his events with another promoter. Think about it, or go to school. I agree JMM deserves the fight more than margs, pretty much every active fighter in the world does, that said, it will be a very exciting fight while it last. I also, don't really want to see Pac vs JMM, not until he can prove he can win a fight over 135.
    I disagree, I believe a trilogy fight with JMM will bring a great deal of money. I think the fight would do well in the Dallas Stadium too. Especially with the demographic.

    I do agree that JMM above 135 is sketchy. He belongs at 135 at most 140. IMO it's not fair for JMM to jump up to 145 to the Mannyweight division.

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    • p4p-champ
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      #52
      Originally posted by BoxeoBoriqua
      at what weight would they fight at??? Marquez can't fight above 140. + Diaz left 1 of eyes swollen shut in a fight that he landed 1 punch in back to back rounds. Pacquiao would kill him. I agree with Arum being a scumbag but saying Marquez deserves a fight with b4 Margarito isn't saying much bcuz just about any1 deserves it b4 Margarito.
      Pacquiao should come down to 140lbs at the very least. There shouldn't be any issues as his team and many others claims he's a 109lb fighter being force fed about 9000 calories a day. "He's not a true welterweight".
      Last edited by p4p-champ; 08-04-2010, 09:49 AM.

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      • Devils Advocate
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        #53
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
        If Juan Manuel Marquez wants a trilogy fight with Manny Pacquiao, he has to prove himself at a higher weight division. Last Saturday in Las Vegas, Marquez picked up a one-sided twelve round decision over Juan Diaz. The fight was held at 135-pounds and Marquez weighed in, the previous day, at 133.5. Two divisions north, Pacquiao has become a solid welterweight with wins over bigger men like Oscar De La Hoya, Joshua Clottey and Miguel Cotto. Pacquiao is now going to make catch-weight leap to junior middleweight to fight Antonio Margarito on November 13. [Click Here To Read More]
        Arum is talking out of his ass, Marquez he a more legit and established name than Margachetto, lets see how well "The SuperBrawl" does and exactly which celebrities fly across country to support the fight. This is a bust in the making. Top Rank would have to have a dynamite undercard. Arum just sh(ts all over Marquez accomplishments then cries foul in the Mayweather negotiations, likes he's not a master manipulator

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        • chav
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          #54
          i like the way arum puts khan at the bottom of the JWW pile which he deserves to be, but its good to hear someone with his clout give Khan and his fanboys the wake up call they need. I admit khan is skilled to the teeth but he will forever be a typical Prince Naseem / Middle Eastern fighter and quit when it doesnt go his way...they arent fistic warriors, its not in their DNA.


          JMM is looking for a payday and fair play, he's earnt it, but pacman will smash him up really easily now that i just wouldnt be interested in seeing it

          Alexander and Bradley can battle all they want for the chance to fight pacman but i dont see pacman or floyd being interested in that fight, so they can roll the dice but i cant see it amounting to a fight with either.

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            #55
            Originally posted by JBell11
            I disagree, I believe a trilogy fight with JMM will bring a great deal of money. I think the fight would do well in the Dallas Stadium too. Especially with the demographic.

            I do agree that JMM above 135 is sketchy. He belongs at 135 at most 140. IMO it's not fair for JMM to jump up to 145 to the Mannyweight division.
            It would be a great fight and Arum knows it would do well, but right now he's clutching on to his golden goose, if Pacman is going to loose he will have him loose making the most money in the absolute biggest fihgt and Marquez has Pac's number below welterweight. At welter Pacquaio sh(ts all over Marquez

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              #56
              Originally posted by chav
              i like the way arum puts khan at the bottom of the JWW pile which he deserves to be, but its good to hear someone with his clout give Khan and his fanboys the wake up call they need. I admit khan is skilled to the teeth but he will forever be a typical Prince Naseem / Middle Eastern fighter and quit when it doesnt go his way...they arent fistic warriors, its not in their DNA.


              JMM is looking for a payday and fair play, he's earnt it, but pacman will smash him up really easily now that i just wouldnt be interested in seeing it

              Alexander and Bradley can battle all they want for the chance to fight pacman but i dont see pacman or floyd being interested in that fight, so they can roll the dice but i cant see it amounting to a fight with either.
              LOL LOL Prince could take some leather, that guys pride alone kept him alive with Barerra.

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              • JBell11
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                #57
                Originally posted by Devils Advocate
                It would be a great fight and Arum knows it would do well, but right now he's clutching on to his golden goose, if Pacman is going to loose he will have him loose making the most money in the absolute biggest fihgt and Marquez has Pac's number below welterweight. At welter Pacquaio sh(ts all over Marquez
                Agreed. 100%.
                As long as their profitable, Arum will ride the fighter until he is done.

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                • PRBOXINGCOTTO
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                  #58
                  marquez will lose to all those guys accept clottey cuz clottey would just block all day lol but dam man give marquez the fight it will be big alot of mexican will watch it n so will alot of puerto ricans n the filipinos so how much more would u need it will make a million buys just on us

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                  • counterpunch
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                    #59
                    Pacquiao will win 80% but it wont be easy stylewise, to me it would be bloody, in w/c Pacquiao fans dont want to see today.

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                      #60
                      Pac doesn't deserve a title at 154. If anyone "deserves" a fight with Pac its the last guy that gave him hell, JMM.

                      Arum doesn't want to match Pac with anyone of a threat. Anyone that has technical abilities and speed. Anyone that won't go toe to toe or an aggressive come forward style.

                      Arum wants to talk about deserving. When did Clottey ever deserve a fight with Pac? Pac didn't look impressive in that boarefest. So he cant talk about JMM fighting and beating Diaz twice now.

                      Arum is putting Pac in with the Clottey's, Margaritos and possibly Cotto again next year when we have JMM, Berto, Bradley, Alexander, Mosley, Martinez, Pwill all waiting and more deserving than Clottey and Margarito. Also who wants to see Pac fight Cotto again?

                      The fact that NOBODY is arguing that Margarito is going to lose validates my point. This is de ja vue all over again but instead of Clottey its Marg.

                      The question should be asked. When will BOB put Pac in with a technical fighter?

                      Its ok to point fingers at Floyd because he's his own boss but when Pac has his team protecting him its ok?

                      People need to use those same eyes they hate Floyd with and look at Pac....

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