How lame is Pac-Marg for Pac's 8th division title?

[j.one]

No they don't? Nobody talks about Ray's catchweight fight in a negative way. Why? Becasue he wasn't a potential Floyd opponent!

When did Ray manipulate the weight to fabricate a legacy and then refuse drug testing?

[jrosales13]

It is lame that is for a bull**** title. No way would I consider the winner a champ in the division....

Cheap ass title.

But, I do think it would be an entertaining fight. Just my opinion.

However, there are more deserving, better, and more dangerous fights for Pac out there.

[jrosales13]

When did Ray manipulate the weight to fabricate a legacy and then refuse drug testing?

He did all of the above in the late 80's. ALL OF THE ABOVE.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

When did Ray manipulate the weight to fabricate a legacy and then refuse drug testing?

actually, he refused drug testing when Hearns asked

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[Calilloyd]

so what...
they beat him at 147 and they would must likely beat him at 154.

People would have been bitching non stop if Pac fought Cotto at 154 for the title despite it being "legitimate" as you claim. Why? because Pac beat Cotto pretty decisively. Thus, the fact that Cotto "accomplished" more doesn't mean **** in that scenario. Pac should be fighting Mayweather and Margarito should be fighting Cotto at 154 for the title then after the mayweather fight pac should have fought the winner of that fight. however, boxing is not like that and instead we are given a bull**** fight with bull**** stipulations.

Lets deal with reality and facts. Not fantasy and fictional fights. Neither has fought Cotto at 154. Neither has accomplished anything at 154. Cotto has. You can spin it any way you want but facts are facts. Hypothetical's mean nothing. Cotto won his belt the right way so in no way can you include him to justify your point.

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Lets deal with reality and facts. Not fantasy and fictional fights. Neither has fought Cotto at 154. Neither has accomplished anything at 154. Cotto has. You can spin it any way you want but facts are facts. Hypothetical's mean nothing. Cotto won his belt the right way so in no way can you include him to justify your point.

they are facts. if you wish to view them as fantasy then

[Calilloyd]

No they don't? Nobody talks about Ray's catchweight fight in a negative way. Why? Becasue he wasn't a potential Floyd opponent!

BS. If you think that, you don't read much. That wouldn't be hard to believe. Who includes the LaLonde fight when talking about Leonard's legacy?

[IMDAZED]

No they don't? Nobody talks about Ray's catchweight fight in a negative way. Why? Becasue he wasn't a potential Floyd opponent!

If this is meant to be funny you fail. If you're serious, you fail.

Guess what?

Yup, you guessed it...

[Calilloyd]

they are facts. if you wish to view them as fantasy then

So Cotto didn't win his belt legitimately? That was the argument. I'll wait for you to explain how that wasn't the case. So far you haven't.