Dear Juan Manuel Marquez: I Love You.

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  • Bushbaby
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    #11
    Great post,although I thought Barrera beat him head to head,he is deserving of all a fight fans respect!!

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    • Vito Corleone
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      #12
      Did anyone notice that when Floyd dropped Marquez with that lead left hook, Marquez was hurt. But when Floyd moved in to try to finish, JMM hit Mayweather with a two-piece that backed Floyd off.

      Just a smart, smart fighter. Always so cool-headed.

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      • BennyST
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        #13
        Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
        do you think he's an ATG?
        What's an ATG to you? You mean like top fifty? No, definitely not. If a first ballot HOFer is an ATG (which in reality it is as they are the best of the best, or should be), then yes he is.

        Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
        Great post,although I thought Barrera beat him head to head,he is deserving of all a fight fans respect!!
        I just cannot fathom this. How did you score that fight? Because from any normal scoring point of view in a pro fight, even with the KD being scored in BArrera's favour, Marquez should still have won that fight.

        He won most rounds, landed the cleaner, harder shots throughout and controlled the pace. He won that fight comfortably. It is downright silly to say otherwise and either means you are a Barrera fan who refuses to see reality, which I can understand, or you don't like Marquez, which I can't understand.



        Go watch it with the sound off. You'll understand then how comfortably Marquez won it. But, please don't bring up the KD that Barrera should have had scored in his favour. A punch that blatant when a fighter is down has nearly always gotten that fighter DQ'd. Barrera was lucky he had two points only taken off (even if one was from the ref error) and not a DQ loss. People overlook just how bad a foul that was because of the situation but Barrera stopped, waited, wound up and then 'WAM!' on the back of his head. That's a highly DQable offense and in all reality he should have been DQ'd. Two points being taken is lenient.

        Made no difference anyway. Marquez still won the fight whether or not the KD had occured. If you still scored it for Barrera even with the ref error, the you simply cannot score a fight.

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        • TintaBoricua
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          #14
          Originally posted by Vito Corleone
          How can a boxing fan - a TRUE boxing fan - look at Juan Manuel Marquez and see anything other than the epitome of what a modern boxer should be?

          Forget for a moment his heavenly skills. If you can. Forget the way that he weathered the storm from a younger Baby Bull only to unleash one of the prettiest finishing combinations in recent history. Culminated by an uppercut which could only have been divinely gifted upon him.

          Forget for a moment the massive heart. If you can. Forget the way that he came off the canvas three times in the first round against Manny Pacquiao. Unlike his compatriots Morales and Barrera, he didn't tap out. Juan Manuel Marquez guzzled a pint of his own blood and beat Pacquiao up for the remaining 11 rounds.

          Forget for a moment his integrity. If you can. Forget that his name has never been mired in the myriad steroid, cheating, weight-manipulation scandals that have sullied our beloved sport.

          Juan Manuel Marquez, I love what you represent. I love the way you fight. I love the way you represent your country. From the bottom of this boxing fan's heart, thank you.




          I will never get over how spectacular his comeback was when he fought Pacquiao the first time. I don't care what anyone says, that is one of the greatest career-defining performances in all of boxing history. If I try to explain to someone what heart is, I just think of that fight because that was a gutsy performance.

          And now that we're at it, let me give you all some food for thought (just to analyze how important this fight was for Juan Manuel Marquez): Where the hell would he be had Cortez stopped it in the 1st? It's mind-boggling when you think about it. I mean, three knockdowns in the 1st round and he STILL manages to be competitive?! That...that is something. He would've been ranked much lower in the minds of boxing fans had it not been for surviving that 1st round. It's amazing what a little tolerance from a referee and a titanic heart can get you.

          WAR DINAMITA!!!

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          • Blue Demon
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            #15
            Amen, great post.
            THANK YOU, DINAMITA.

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            • street bully
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              #16
              Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
              do you think he's an ATG?
              He is an ATG without a doubt, greater than Moralez and Barrera in my opinion.

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              • street bully
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                #17
                Dinimita Cartel, where you at?

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                • Pac-KO
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                  #18
                  marquez is a legend, its been a pleasure to watch him, morales and barrera.

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                  • Vito Corleone
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by street bully
                    He is an ATG without a doubt, greater than Moralez and Barrera in my opinion.
                    Does JMM have that ONE fight/win that you can equate to:

                    Barrera's win over Hamed

                    or

                    Morales' win over Pacquiao

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                    • KickAzz
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                      #20
                      jmm was a great featherweight

                      jmm is a great lightweight

                      jmm is probably a good jr welterweight

                      jmm is a mediocre welterweight

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