Would You Like Your Favorite Boxer If He Said He Was Gay?

[Nautilus]

hey nautilus and neils -hey man it's not me, its the people who are keeping this alive. it is a very interesting subject to them, therefore they will keep it alive. remember, people are infatuated with anything to do with sex, race, religion, violence.----so anytime you deal with any of that you will get an audience.

and u r exploitin it ?

[Mr. Violence]

and u r expoitin it ?

hey nautilus ...read the earlier thread...I said I will NOT say another thing in here....so the thread will die. I am not exploiting a damn thing. By human nature people like these subjects, so what am I supposed to do never talk about these things? Ok starting again i will not say another thing in here.

[cms]

I would maybe still watch the fight but i prob wouldnt be a fan of him as much

[simeraksou]

I would still be a fan. what the fighter does outside of the ring is less important than what he does inside, from a fan's perspective

[foremanfan]

I'm amazed how popular this topic is just look at the views.

[Silverfox]

it also states though a man may drop his nut in butt, his antics outside the ring have nothing to do with his antics inside the ring. and will continue to have an audience.

A beautiful blonde is naked, on her bed, fast asleep, legs wide open. Two flies are buzzing around down 'there.'

Q. Which fly is the boxer?

A. The one in the ring!

[Silverfox]

hmm-I didnt know emile griffith was gay

arts beat
Fight to the Finish
Film Documents 1962 Boxing Death

By Terri Hyder

Ring of Fire: The Emile Griffith Story
USC Russell House Theatre: Monday, Nov. 8

In 1962, sports fanatics tuned into boxing on ABC's Friday Night Fights with the frenzy they now dedicate to football. Filmmaker Dan Klores remembers tuning in religiously as a young boy and the fight that tainted the sport forever.

The fight, between Emile Griffith and Benny "The Kid" Paret, left Paret dead ‹ and Griffith's career forever tainted for being a murderer. Griffith and Paret had met twice before, the first a successful welterweight title defense for Griffith and the second a victory for Paret. The events leading up to their third fight, the tragedy itself and the aftermath in the world of boxing are the subject of Klores' new documentary, Ring of Fire: The Emile Griffith Story.

A New York native and USC alumnus, Klores screened his first documentary, The Boys of 2nd Street Park, at USC last November. That film premiered at the Sundance Film Festival and ran on Showtime in 2003. His new film will get its first public screening in USC's Russell House Theatre on Nov. 8 as part of a visiting filmmaker's series. Ring of Fire has already been sold to a major network and will air in March or April of 2005.

"The fight stayed with me," Klores says in a recent interview. "The debates, the politics surrounding it. The public calling for a ban on boxing."

The repercussions of the fight were further complicated by the fact that on the day of the weigh-in, Paret mocked Griffith in front of the media, calling him a "maricon," the Spanish word for "******." Klores feels that his film will open up discussion about ****sexuality in sports, which has been a taboo subject for many years.

"There is no contemporary male athlete that says 'I'm gay.' Not in any sport. "

Though traumatized and stigmatized by Paret's death, Griffith eventually went on to continue a successful boxing career in both the welterweight and middleweight categories. He became the middleweight champion in 1966, and he boxed 339 title-fight rounds in his career ‹ more than any fighter before or since.

"There are so many layers to this film," Klores says. Besides the issue of gays in sports, there's violence, politics, ethnicity and a love story between Benny Paret and his pregnant wife, who was widowed by [the] fight. In small screenings, women really loved that part of it."

Klores says he doesn't necessarily need the audience to take anything profound from the film, he only hopes they will enjoy it.

"I hope they leave thinking: 'That made me feel.' I think it will strike a chord with them."

Following the screening, which is free and open to the public, Klores will answer questions from the audience.

Klores' next plans include a "dark and true" feature film beginning in March and a documentary about the Latinization of baseball in America.

"This one's been hard," he says. "But I don't care if it fails, as long as it's unique."

Ring of Fire: The Emile Griffith Story will play Nov. 8 at 8 p.m. in the Russell House Theatre at USC. Admission is free. Call 777-1216 for more information.

[Novirasputin]

probably wouldn't give a well you know


Not my cup of tea, but a person is a person

love is love you know!

I like fighters for their attitude in and out of the ring

and if i like a fighter for the way he speaks outside the ring
not to mention what he does inside the ring


then it won't change after he announces he is gay

so he won't have changed at all for me at all
he will still fight the same and speak the same (unless he suddenly starts to bend his wrists and speak very annoyed like gay people do sometimes you know)

[grayfist]

There are Emil Griffith training videos that have been widely reviewed as one of the best tools for boxers in various stages of their careers.

Re sexual preferences of boxers, they don't mean much in the ring unless one is prone to over-doing the sex act, whether **** or hetero.

[Mr. Violence]

I wouldn't have a problem with this at all, however I think it would be fasinating to see the effect it had on his opponent going in to the fight.

you're right it might freak his ass out....what's up with Ruiz and the hugging anyway...