James Toney weight issues maybe caused by head trauma

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  • Tiozzo
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Stones
    That's terrible.

    He's going to get beat down in the UFGAY.
    I wouldn't bet on that

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    • abdiel2k3
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      #22
      thats good
      that means theyre really earnin the kinda money the top guys r gettin
      serious risk serious bucks

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      • Junito-Rulez
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        #23
        Originally posted by The Stones
        That's terrible.

        He's going to get beat down in the UFGAY.
        Couture is 47 y old and can't throw a punch to save his life. Toney should KO this ***** and GTFO of the UFC. Dana White is a piece of **** and should be ashamed to do this. Toney would get killed against animals like Dos Santos and the pocho Velazquez. 8 months of jiujitsu is not enough to beat those mother****ers. If Toney can beat Couture, fight a Klits for a big payday and retire, it'd be perfect.




        No matter what happens:

        BOXING >>>>>>>>>> MMA, hands down.

        And i like MMA.

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        • Clutch93
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          #24
          I thought most people had already seen this video, made me curious as to why the "fat ass lazy toney" image sticks with him so much.

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          • freedom213
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            #25
            Originally posted by LeTombeur





            most people have fun mocking Toney because of his weight issues (me too )

            but here is a very interesting vid that suggests that the reason for his weight problems could be caused by a head trauma

            let's give a break to Lights out


            Wow! great find!

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              #26
              wow!! A total test level of 137 ... lowest level ive seen and Im on TRT and have seen alot of dudes diagnosed with Hypogonadism and started on HRT/TRT on the Anti aging forums with test levels not as low as Toneys .. hes going to need to be put on HRT or if he isnt already on it!

              Many hormone specialists will diagnose you with Hypogonadism if your total test levels are lower than 300 ... put it this way my ole gramps at 72 has a higher total test level than JT does at 380 LOL

              There have been studies proven that intense combat training does lower testosterone levels in time but also this could be caused years of taking gear/peds/roids and his testes have been desensitsied and his PCT no longer restarts his natural production of testosterone they way it should or did before.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Sin City
                a question that comes to mind right away to me then is: should we blame james toney for taking steroids?

                if he needs testosterone in his body, he could've been prescribed pharmaceutical steroids for all we know.
                Good point! My doc and most hormone specialists will prescribe testosterone either by gel,cream,pellets or IM shots via testosterone cyp/Ena if your total
                testosterone level is lower than 300 depending on range ... say the range is

                300 - 935

                The top range ie 700+ is for the late teens and early 20yr olds when your total testosterone level are naturally at its highest. The lower range 400 or under is for the old pensioners at 60-80yrs old.

                Also it may explain his weight issues dispite being a top class boxer all these years.

                A low testosterone level or more specifically a low T-E ratio ie T being testosterone E being Estradiol/Estrogen would inhibit one too loose fat but more likely increase your fat levels tremendiously no matter what you eat or how much you train.

                A healthy male will have at least a 30-1 ratio of T-E.
                Ie total testosterone level 700 Estradiol/Estrogen level 20-25

                James Toney probably has a T-E ratio of 5-1 which would explain his weight issues. Increasing testosterone will increase muscle mass and thus lower fat levels. Thres been a couple of times when JT at heavyweight looked alot more solid like when he fought Holyfield and Rydel Booker.Most likely he was on gear/peds/roids during these fights.

                Another interesting point is that everyone who posted in this thread probably has a total testosterone level 400% or more percent higher than James Toney does yet he could tie one hand behind his back and whip each one of us one after other

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                • Check_hooks
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                  #28
                  james toney actually has lost quite a bit of weight for the corture fight

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                  • REMOVED SHARK 97
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                    #29
                    Ye that must be the reason why he is fat...

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                    • Toney616
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Artiau
                      Ye that must be the reason why he is fat...
                      I fail to see the connection as well. On another note if Toney realized the sport was doing that to him, then he should of retired, instead of continuing to fight

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