The Manny Pacquiao appreciation thread

[jonesy]

Uhh I actually appreciate manny for what he's done for his community. You have a picture of valero(rip) and tony. Says a lot about what you value.

Ring Warriors

[The Big Dunn]

So Barrera was not in his true weight when he was dismantled by Pac?

Come on, Pac's legacy is already sealed and beating Floyd will only be an icing in the cake. Pac=Jordan, Floyd=Barkley.

I wasn't sure he was the underdog vs barrera, not that it wasn't his best weight. Floyd has as many lineal titles as manny so the barkley thing is out. Floyd=Magic Manny=Shaq. Floyd is better, manny has been more dominant.

[The Big Dunn]

Ring Warriors

Oh ok. i was thinking wife beaters (rip) and disgraceful ****ing cheaters Although valero was a hell of a fighter. Him and Pac or Floyd would be great fights.

[RimmyDelicious]

True dat. great accomplishments. Floyd has 4 lineal as well. Again, I'm not knocking pac. great fighter. 1st ballot HOF. But there are 2 reasonable fair criticisms of manny:

1.No title defenses like the ATG you compare him to
2. The lack of a US born and bred "slick" boxer (the kind Hopkins described to Pavlik) on his record.

Is that a fair statement?

Floyd has 4 lineal titles in only 3 weight classes. 130, 135, and 147 twice. Not the same as Manny's 4 in 4 seperate weight classes and not nearly the same distance from weight wise from the first to last title.

Statement 1 you need to clarify. Statement 2 is disguised racism.

[jonesy]

True dat. great accomplishments. Floyd has 4 lineal as well. Again, I'm not knocking pac. great fighter. 1st ballot HOF. But there are 2 reasonable fair criticisms of manny:

1.No title defenses like the ATG you compare him to
2. The lack of a US born and bred "slick" boxer (the kind Hopkins described to Pavlik) on his record.

Is that a fair statement?

LOL!! Resorting to desperation now?

[Jack Napier]

Floyd don't have 4 lineal titles, he has 3
Mosley wasn't lineal champ at 147, just ranked #1

[RimmyDelicious]

Floyd don't have 4 lineal titles, he has 3
Mosley wasn't lineal champ at 147, just ranked #1

Mosley was lineal.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd has 4 lineal titles in only 3 weight classes. 130, 135, and 147 twice. Not the same as Manny's 4 in 4 seperate weight classes and not nearly the same distance from weight wise from the first to last title.

Statement 1 you need to clarify. Statement 2 is disguised racism.

154 when he beat ODH.

The 2nd statement is not racism at all. Yuri foreman fits the profile. While I don't suscribe to the "manny has avoided slick black american fighters" argument, his resume is devoid of them. You may not agree, but for some in the black community this is a big issue. Africans, caribbeans, and americans are all "black". but bernard was refering to the difference in athleticism between loenard, ali, floyd, meldrick taylor, and quartey, clottey, nelson.

[Jack Napier]

Mosley was lineal.

no he wasn't, look it up

[The Big Dunn]

LOL!! Resorting to desperation now?

If you want to discuss some time we can. no names no bs. Again you can disagree.