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  • #31
    Originally posted by oldgringo
    True. Still though, Vernos been at the top of that division for awhile now...and hes a tough test for anyone. He's probably a bit past his best now, but two wins over him shouldn't go unnoticed. Plus Ouma has the good wins over Jantuah and Candelo.

    I think I labled him the king of that division more on his potential to do big things in the division, not so much because his resume was incredible. He's beaten a few good fighters, but no one great.

    I just wish Travis Simms was younger.
    To be honest as a Simms fan, I agree with you.. if he was just a little bit younger it would be awsome. He got a late start in boxing but is a very young 34. Its time for him to start fighting again I dont understand this inactivty

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    • #32
      Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
      Don't sleep on Cory Spinks.

      yeah although I'm still high on ouma..I feel that cory spinks could be undisputed junior middleweight champ eventaully..i would say mayorga has a shot but his motivation is awlasy a factor

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      • #33
        Originally posted by tracylee
        a robbery?/ I thought Spinks outboxed Mayo beautifully!
        me too....

        spinks outboxed mayorga all night long

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        • #34
          1-spinks didnt dominate...he the non-KD call and the points deductions made that fight able to go anyway.Plus it would be at 154 which spinks would have even a tougher time with a mayorga that doesnt have to kill himself(as much to make weight and handles this one better)

          2-i think Mayorga,simms or Ouma will be the last man standing at the end and from these will emerge one.

          3-i havent watch fight yet.Was it on Boxeo the oro.(cuz if so i will watch it on hbo latin repeat coming in about an hour. Ayway until i watch fight i will know but i have a q for those who watched it. CAN Ouma take a punch??/cuz i read he was dropped quite easily. Other guys with more power would take him out than most likely.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Hurlex
            1-spinks didnt dominate...he the non-KD call and the points deductions made that fight able to go anyway.Plus it would be at 154 which spinks would have even a tougher time with a mayorga that doesnt have to kill himself(as much to make weight and handles this one better)

            2-i think Mayorga,simms or Ouma will be the last man standing at the end and from these will emerge one.

            3-i havent watch fight yet.Was it on Boxeo the oro.(cuz if so i will watch it on hbo latin repeat coming in about an hour. Ayway until i watch fight i will know but i have a q for those who watched it. CAN Ouma take a punch??/cuz i read he was dropped quite easily. Other guys with more power would take him out than most likely.
            Yes he can take a punch. The first knockdown was more of him being off balance. The second one caught him on the chin and he fell into the ropes and bounced right back up. He didn't appear to be hurt either time. I think the second one just caught him off guard a little.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by The Fix
              me too....

              spinks outboxed mayorga all night long
              To make such a statment I think you have not seen that fight. It was a robbery Mayorga deserved the descision. Do you not forget that Mayorga dropped Spinks ass bad in that fight. The end result was a SD. I had Mayorga ahead by 2 points.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by mic573
                Yes he can take a punch. The first knockdown was more of him being off balance. The second one caught him on the chin and he fell into the ropes and bounced right back up. He didn't appear to be hurt either time. I think the second one just caught him off guard a little.
                yeah the first one he was off balance..i guarantee you something was wrong with ouma yesterday..anyone knows that ouma usually looks happy and excited to be fighitng but since the beginning of the bout he looked like something was on his mind or he was sick..His balance was horrible he kept reaching and his legs looked real weak..It's fine that alot of you jump off the wagon but he will beat this guy in the rematch and Ill bet on it

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  To make such a statment I think you have not seen that fight. It was a robbery Mayorga deserved the descision. Do you not forget that Mayorga dropped Spinks ass bad in that fight. The end result was a SD. I had Mayorga ahead by 2 points.
                  ive seen the fight and spinks clearly outboxed mayorga, it was a close fight but i had spinks ahead


                  btw i also had vernon forrest in the second fight with mayorga but i gueess vernon just didnt do enough

                  EDIT- it was a majority decision not split, no judge had it for mayorga
                  Last edited by The Fix; 07-16-2005, 04:10 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The Fix
                    ive seen the fight and spinks clearly outboxed mayorga, it was a close fight but i had spinks ahead


                    btw i also had vernon forrest in the second fight with mayorga but i gueess vernon just didnt do enough
                    I had Forrest Mayorga 2 a draw.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by The Fix
                      ive seen the fight and spinks clearly outboxed mayorga, it was a close fight but i had spinks ahead
                      Spinks clearly outboxing Mayorga and it being a close fight, split descision are contradictary statements. It was a close fight. I thought Mayorga won, and Spinks ass was down good in that fight.

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