Comments Thread For: HBO's Greenburg: Mayweather-Pacquiao Talks Took Place!

[Lorily]

stop with the morales loss bull****, the commission lost both guys tests and took blood from both. It wasn't a random OST done on fight day. Also, morales got tested too. Manny lost for the 1st time in a while and he made a bull**** excuse.

Not saying this isn't true but can you provide a link that they also lost Morales test and that he was tested the same day as well?

Link to article: http://www.examiner.com/x-21442-Sacr...ng-Is-it-a-PED



What is the official word on Xylocaine? Is it illegal in the United States? Is it banned by boxing or any of the State Athletic Commissions? Why does Floyd Mayweather take it? After contacting the appropriate authoritative en******, I have the answers to these questions and more.


US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

Lenny Brown Sacramento, CA “Is Xylocaine approved by the FDA?”

I spoke today with a representative from the FDA via their Drug Information line. I asked them if Xylocaine was illegal or banned in this country. The representative said there are no bans on this drug. The representative also said that there would be no reason for individual states to make this drug illegal especially if its FDA approved. However, if this drug is administered by an I.V. or through injections then it must be done under the direct supervision of a licensed medical professional.

FDA.gov



World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)

One of the world’s leading authorities on anti-doping, WADA is the primary source for which drugs are banned in sports or athletic competitions worldwide. According to WADA, via GlobalDRO.com, “None of the ingredients in this brand (Xylocaine) are currently included on the WADA Prohibited List”. This means that Xylocaine is not banned by WADA.

WADA



US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA)

Mandy Craig Sacramento, CA “Does the USADA ban Xylocaine?”

The USADA has a Drug Reference line where you can contact them via telephone and specifically ask them about any drug. When I called them yesterday, I spoke directly with their telephone doctor of the day. First, I must say that it was very informative being able to talk to a USADA doctor about this drug and the potential side effects. Anyhow, the doctor said that Xylocaine is legal for boxers to take via injection into the hands. He also said that individual state athletic commissions might have additional stipulations.

USADA.org



Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC)

In a conversation that I had with Keith Kizer, about the use of Xylocaine in the state of Nevada, Keith said that because “It is not a prohibited substance under WADA or USADA”; it’s not banned by the State Athletic Commission. However, Keith Kizer noted that the commission has added some stipulations to the use of Xylocaine.

“We don’t want fighters to use it on fight day. We make sure they have full physicals to check for this. They will be told to stop doing this from the weigh-in through the fight. Fighters must only take Tylenol or ice for any pain.”

NSAC



Conclusion

As of February 17th 2010, Xylocaine is not banned according to the FDA, USADA, WADA, and the NSAC. In fact, I can’t find any other State Athletic Commission that bans it either. So, Floyd Mayweather’s use of this drug for his hands is not illegal. And, as long as he doesn’t use it from the weigh-in through fight day, then he won’t get into any trouble. However, this doesn’t mean that this drug is still safe or something that the general public should just go out and acquire.

Xylocaine, in most methods of usage, needs to be supervised by a licensed medical professional due to potential serious side effects like an abnormal heartbeat. In addition to potential side effects, there are also some long-term effects like dementia that could be experienced.

Regardless of the side effects and the legal use of this drug, it still remains debated whether this drug gives Floyd an advantage or not. It’s clear that there would be an advantage on fight day if he couldn’t experience any pain in his brittle hands but is this drug a real advantage during training?

According to BlueCross/Blue Shield – “Performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) are prescription medications, like anabolic steroids and stimulants, as well as sports supplements and growth hormones that some athletes take to improve their energy, stamina and power while training or competing.”

According to The Mayo Clinic – “Performance-enhancing drugs and supplements are used to boost athletic performance, ward off fatigue and enhance physical appearance. They're also taken to increase muscle mass and strength.”


Xylocaine might be legal but it remains highly controversial. Does the legal allowance of this drug override the performance enhancements that this drug provides?


Although, I think this drug is controversial and a PED, the very fact that it's still legal, according to those who I spoke with, makes me wrong for previously thinking it was illegal. I was misinformed, like a lot of people, when we were told that this drug was illegal. I was wrong, and unlike Floyd Mayweather, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. If I'm going to hold others accountable then I have to hold myself accountable too. However, If anyone has any other evidence that this drug is banned in "49" states, then please contact me so I can verify it and check with the proper authorities.


Link to Article: http://www.examiner.com/x-21442-Sacr...ng-Is-it-a-PED

You like to post articles that say a lot, however they usually state nothing of any relevance to your point. The FDA has nothing to do with boxing, USADA and WADA are not implimented in boxing at this time, and most everyone knows that the NSAC allows Xylocaine until the day of the fight. The only thing that bears any notice in this long article posted by you with lots of big letters and pretty colors is that according to the author is "In fact, I can’t find any other State Athletic Commission that bans it either." which isn't backed up or supported by any proof. In fact, he states later in the same article, "However, If anyone has any other evidence that this drug is banned in "49" states, then please contact me so I can verify it and check with the proper authorities." You (aka And Still) like to twist and manipulate articles to fit your agenda hoping that people won't actually read through and see the actual points being made, however quotes from the FDA, USADA, WADA, Blue Cross Blue Shield and Mayo Clinic have nothing to do with with whether Xylocaine is legal IN BOXING.

Why can't Pacquiao fans discuss the sport or defend their fighter's actions without resorting to personal attacks?

Just noticing a trend here.

Good luck trying to get one of the peasants to admit they DON'T KNOW what terms Pac "agreed to".

The above statements by you are the exact reason why you can't be taken seriously. This is just a small taste of the hypocracy you spew, not including your subtle rascist remarks about the Filipino community and the most recent about ***s. (and does not include your previously banned accounts).

[the gent]

Yep... and your guy is going to fight under Floyd's terms. When Floyd says. If Floyd says.

yeah! You tell'em Vito! Oh, can you roll over and ask Floyd a question for me?

When will he fight?

[southcentralcar]

Businessmen (not bussinesman) don't need co-promotional partners, in order to sustain or facilitate business on their behalf. A business doesn't operate long term solely based on one client.

yea you go tell that to mayweather aight? D he's what ? 3rd richest athete in the world ?

[Xeraser]

yea you go tell that to mayweather aight? D he's what ? 3rd richest athete in the world ?

Yeah and he can afford to be coward.

[Vito Corleone]

Roach knows of two of his fighters who tested positive for PEDs
Posted Mar. 12, 2010 at 11:06am

By Michael RosenthalBuzz up!
DALLAS – Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.

Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

“I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

“… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

[the gent]

yea you go tell that to mayweather aight? D he's what ? 3rd richest athete in the world ?

Manny PAC, #9..Not bad for a supposedly uneducated, illiterate from some third world right?..

Didn't see your name on that list, or any list.. Funny since your education is so superior.

[The Big Dunn]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Dunn
stop with the morales loss bull****, the commission lost both guys tests and took blood from both. It wasn't a random OST done on fight day. Also, morales got tested too. Manny lost for the 1st time in a while and he made a bull**** excuse.

Not saying this isn't true but can you provide a link that they also lost Morales test and that he was tested the same day as well?

I don't have a link but that was the issue.

[Vito Corleone]

You like to post articles that say a lot, however they usually state nothing of any relevance to your point. ).

You don't understand that the post was a reply about Xylocaine being a banned substance?

http://allnurses.com/philippine-nurs...ma-277923.html

[Vito Corleone]

Exactly and in the mean time he'll have a rematch with Sharmbe Mitchell, you show'em Floyd!

Sharma is retired and chilling in Maryland. Owns a fun nightclub, btw. Been there.

But Team Mayweather is negotiating with Nate Campbell. And Floyd will still gobble p4p votes, outsell pac's fight with Margaret, and make more money than Pac.

[Vito Corleone]

Haha floyd and his camp were plain destroyed by this Greenburg statement!

Yes. Completely destroyed. I heard Floyd even missed three jumpshots while on vacation in Puerto Rico.