Why are they allowing manny to cheat history??

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  • Burnthrust
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    #31
    Originally posted by RAV3N
    Pac is one of the biggest draws in the boxing world and if someone wants to fight him to get their big pay day and are willing to agree to catchweights, then I really dont see the big problem.

    Catchweights have been around for ages in boxing, I cant understand how you see it as cheating.
    cause they are fighting for a title you dumb f u c k

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    • infamous larryx
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      #32
      Originally posted by RAV3N
      Pac is one of the biggest draws in the boxing world and if someone wants to fight him to get their big pay day and are willing to agree to catchweights, then I really dont see the big problem.

      Catchweights have been around for ages in boxing, I cant understand how you see it as cheating.
      cause no other fighter used catchweights to win titles in differant divisions

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      • Allucard
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        #33
        Originally posted by Siren 666
        Terrible grammar, did you ever go to school?
        lol grammar ****, you failed, that's not that bad.

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        • JmH Reborn
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          #34
          Originally posted by RAV3N
          Pac is one of the biggest draws in the boxing world and if someone wants to fight him to get their big pay day and are willing to agree to catchweights, then I really dont see the big problem.

          Catchweights have been around for ages in boxing, I cant understand how you see it as cheating.
          Nobody said its cheating...per say

          But they are cheating the history books by all this 8 weight class Champion nonsense. Sort of like Roy Jones trying to cheat history so much by beating the weakest champions (or at least attempting to). Just because he's getting away with it, doesn't make it legit.

          Just do the fight @ 154 and be done with it. Its a known fact what cutting weight more than the fighter can healthily do affects their performance. If I have to see Margarito fight, I'd at least like to see him fight at his best performance, not think wow...he looks like a dead character from "Thriller" or wonder if he ate that special kangaroo meat to make weight

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          • the dart
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            #35
            Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1
            cause no other fighter used catchweights to win titles in differant divisions
            I think they pretty much explained why its cheating!

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            • boxasmash
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              #36
              It was ok for Leonard to win 175 belt but not Pac?

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              • whirlwind
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                #37
                Originally posted by JmH Reborn
                Nobody said its cheating...per say

                But they are cheating the history books by all this 8 weight class Champion nonsense. Sort of like Roy Jones trying to cheat history so much by beating the weakest champions (or at least attempting to). Just because he's getting away with it, doesn't make it legit.

                Just do the fight @ 154 and be done with it. Its a known fact what cutting weight more than the fighter can healthily do affects their performance. If I have to see Margarito fight, I'd at least like to see him fight at his best performance, not think wow...he looks like a dead character from "Thriller" or wonder if he ate that special kangaroo meat to make weight
                I don't support this 150 bull**** but saying Margarito will affect his performance at 150 is another bull**** because he is a welterweight and fights at 147 most of his fights. Going to 150 will only makes him stronger and healthier unlike Pac that will carrying those unnecessary extra lbs for nothing. He can't even reach at 147 in his last 3 welterweight fights whats makes you think more at 150?
                Last edited by whirlwind; 07-25-2010, 07:18 PM.

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                • Real King Kong
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1
                  im sorry man...ive never really heard anyone count just the ring belt as winning a divisional title...other than manny and hopkins
                  the rings criteria for crowning a champion is far better than any sanctioning body is all i'm saying. does the ring have marg ranked #1 at 154? would the ring consider pac vs marg as a championship fight? unifying a division is the only thing that holds weight these days as far as sanctioning body belts go imo. who gives a *** anyway...real fans know who the best are in each division. i'm not trying to listen to anyone tellin me pac is 154lb champ if he beats marg the same way i wasn't tryin to hear it when he beat cotto at "welter weight".

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1
                    first of all manny-margo in no shape or form should be for a title..niether has done **** to deserve to fight for a vacant title at 154..absolutly nothing..and then its at 150..not 154,,there are other 154 fighters who have earned that right and that will fight for it without a catchweight...damn that means his ww and jww title fights were both catchweight fights....wtf is going on..hes cheating history..he didnt even have to win a WORLD TITLE at 140 or 126..just ring belts.its like they have manny rules established now
                    Julio Cesar Chavez vs Pernell Whitaker (145 catch-weight for W.W title)

                    Jimmy McLarnin vs Pancho Villa (114 catchweight but McLarnin came in overweight at 122)

                    Joe Gans vs Joe Walcott (138 pound catchweight)

                    Henry Maske vs ****** Hill (190 catchweight)

                    Bernard Hopkins vs Oscar De La hoya (158 catchweight)

                    Jose Luis Castillo vs Diego Corrales (both fighters agreed to make 135 but no one can weigh more than 147 on fight night)

                    Fernando Vargas vs Ricardo Mayorga (162 catchweight)

                    Roy Jones Jr. vs Felix Trinidad (170 catchweight)

                    Miguel Cotto vs Manny Pacquiao (145 catchweight)

                    Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Juan Manuel Marquez (144 catchweight, Mayweather came in overwheight at 146) (This is a non title bout but I added it anyways because prior to retirement, Floyd was the lineal W.W champ)

                    Paulie Ayala vs Johnny Tapia (124 catchweight)

                    Terry Norris vs Meldrick Taylor (150 1/2 catchweight)

                    Henry Armstrong vs Law Jenkis (140 catchweight, for a Welterweight Bout! )

                    Emile Griffith vs Dave Charnley (148 catchweight)

                    Sugar Ray Leonard vs Donny Lalonde (168 catchweight)

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                    • optkliluzn
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                      #40
                      Manny is my favorite fighter and I believe he is the best out there but I ABSOLUTELY agree with what you say! If he wins a belt then there should be no catch weight
                      Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1
                      first of all manny-margo in no shape or form should be for a title..niether has done **** to deserve to fight for a vacant title at 154..absolutly nothing..and then its at 150..not 154,,there are other 154 fighters who have earned that right and that will fight for it without a catchweight...damn that means his ww and jww title fights were both catchweight fights....wtf is going on..hes cheating history..he didnt even have to win a WORLD TITLE at 140 or 126..just ring belts.its like they have manny rules established now

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