To Lie or not to Lie...that is the question....

[extracurRICular]

No seriously....that is the question......

did Arum lie about all he was saying??? he made all that up and publicly stated it and it was all a lie??? he had all this hype going....a countdown on a website.....a media blitz with any one who would hear him and he was lying the whole time??? mean time Mayweather and his camp were all living under a rock in a cave snowed in on top of the furthest mountain away from civilization??? (cuz otherwise they woulda said...Arum WTF you talking bout nug???) HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..........

I gotta tell you I find that very very hard to believe.....

but that's just my opinion...what does the forum believe???? do YOU think Arum was lying??? yes no??? poll to come........

[extracurRICular]

No seriously....that is the question......

did Arum lie about all he was saying??? he made all that up and publicly stated it and it was all a lie??? he had all this hype going....a countdown on a website.....a media blitz with any one who would hear him and he was lying the whole time??? mean time Mayweather and his camp were all living under a rock in a cave snowed in on top of the furthest mountain away from civilization??? (cuz otherwise they woulda said...Arum WTF you talking bout nug???) HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..........

I gotta tell you I find that very very hard to believe.....

but that's just my opinion...what does the forum believe???? do YOU think Arum was lying??? yes no??? poll to come........

Yeah......I called this one.....hahaha......no wonder you ladies stayed soooo quiet......deep down inside ya'll knew your boi Gayweather just bitched out......... oh and joto Pac don't get off scott free either....if he hadn't been a ***** bout testing none of this would happen.....*** them both!!!

[DontHitMyNuts]

funny how ellerbe said "calling in to see what mayweather wants to do is not a negotiation"

as if none on their side even tried nor attempted to make this fight happen. He already acknowledged that they were contacted. What did his party do to contribute / make this fight happen? nothing? its as if they ducked it knowing their bluff got called.

also pretty sketchy about shaefer even uttering the "gag order", that in itself is an affirmation that both parties "negotiated" not to disclose contract details like the first one

also DLH retracting his statements with a 5 year old excuse. pretty pathetic.

they all suddenly sprouted and started spewing lies NOW that arum's signing pac with margarito.

[The Gambler1981]

Arum still lied though, even if there is some truth in what he said. A good liar never tells 100% lies, they use lies to color the truth in a light that benefits them.

Or do you consider Arum's statment the fight is a done deal to be a really accurate assessment of what the situation was?

[extracurRICular]

Arum still lied though, even if there is some truth in what he said. A good liar never tells 100% lies, they use lies to color the truth in a light that benefits them.

Or do you consider Arum's statment the fight is a done deal to be a really accurate assessment of what the situation was?

of course not....they are all stinking ****** ****face liers in my book.....but this whole "negotiations didn't take place" form the ***weather camp takes the cake....I mean how egregious can you be for god's sake!!!

[The Gambler1981]

of course not....they are all stinking ****** ****face liers in my book.....but this whole "negotiations didn't take place" form the ***weather camp takes the cake....I mean how egregious can you be for god's sake!!!

Like Ellerbe said it is a matter of how one defines negotiations, of course Greenburg talked to both sides and was trying to make the fight. Now those three-way talks are certainly a form of negotiations, but if both sides really fail to truly get down to business to hammer out a deal then i can't call those real negotiations.

Now Arum is kind of telling the truth and he is kind of lying while GBP is doing the same thing, both sides are playing the same game.

I just don't think things got past second base, if they even got that far and that comes down to both sides.

[extracurRICular]

Like Ellerbe said it is a matter of how one defines negotiations, of course Greenburg talked to both sides and was trying to make the fight. Now those three-way talks are certainly a form of negotiations, but if both sides really fail to truly get down to business to hammer out a deal then i can't call those real negotiations.

Now Arum is kind of telling the truth and he is kind of lying while GBP is doing the same thing, both sides are playing the same game.

I just don't think things got past second base, if they even got that far and that comes down to both sides.

oh so now it turns out this guy was doing the negotiations ????? hahahha ya'll too much!!!!

[The Gambler1981]

oh so now it turns out this guy was doing the negotiations ????? hahahha ya'll too much!!!!

What are you talking about, it ws always obvious that Greeburg was trying to make the fight and he knows how to get ahold of all those guys.

To one side they never got down to actually making the fight, sure they had some talks about it but if they feel they never got down to the business of actually making the fight what do you want them to say about the situation?

Call it what you want though because they certainly didn't work to make the fight happean though so you can be pissed at whoever all you want, but the situation is not black and white.

[extracurRICular]

What are you talking about, it ws always obvious that Greeburg was trying to make the fight and he knows how to get ahold of all those guys.

To one side they never got down to actually making the fight, sure they had some talks about it but if they feel they never got down to the business of actually making the fight what do you want them to say about the situation?

Call it what you want though because they certainly didn't work to make the fight happean though so you can be pissed at whoever all you want, but the situation is not black and white.

At least acknowledge the fact that they talked maybe??? how hard was that??? they were just trying to cover up ***weather's vagina juice drippins....that's all that was......

[The Gambler1981]

At least acknowledge the fact that they talked maybe??? how hard was that??? they were just trying to cover up ***weather's vagina juice drippins....that's all that was......

Just because they talked doesn't mean they negotiated. That is what that side is saying, can you or can you not understand that.