How Hard Is It For Floyd To Come Out And Say...

[Phenom]

thats a new one when has floyd ever been able to keep his mouth shut!

he didn't say anything in the negotiations for the March fight remember until he made that final offer

**** is getting redundant how many times did he say the offer from March was no longer valid and how Manny times did he say random OST and a bigger split if the Mosley fight sells more then Manny's fight.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

he didn't say anything in the negotiations for the March fight remember until he made that final offer

**** is getting redundant how many times did he say the offer from March was no longer valid and how Manny times did he say random OST and a bigger split if the Mosley fight sells more then Manny's fight.

how about saying that now to save face? its not that hard...there's $60mil on the table with his name on it...the GOAT can't talk now?

[War Dinamita]

then why is Ellebee yapping?

He made one statement to the media to clear up his name and his team's name. His statement was proven true and he didn't talk **** about Pac and his team.

what's the point? how about a $60mil payday for being proactive and at least restoring some shine back to his name


he can use the media to slander another fighter, he can't use it to clear his own name?

No matter what Floyd does people are going to criticize him and the media will never give him the benefit of the doubt.

If Floyd ends up fighting Sergio at 160 and Manny ends up fighting Margacheato at 151, people are still going to call him a ducker and put the blame on him.

Floyd doesn't need Arum and Pac to make millions. He showed everyone with his last two fights he can make millions without a dance partner.

Arum and PAC want to revisit negotiations, why not restate your stance? unless those were met by Team PAC and he's out of excuses

like i said, if Team PAC didn't take those stipulations, how ****ING EASY would it be to clown them right now?? really

Tell me why Arum can't even answer the very basic questions of his deal. Where is the paper work and contract for this fight? How come he ducked the question when he was asked about the deal?

Put the blame on Arum for killing the fight again.

[Vasyl’s dad]

he didn't say anything in the negotiations for the March fight remember until he made that final offer

**** is getting redundant how many times did he say the offer from March was no longer valid and how Manny times did he say random OST and a bigger split if the Mosley fight sells more then Manny's fight.

**** is getting redundant how many times it has to be said that extra testing was never needed in the first place.

**** is getting redundant how many times is has to be said that Floyd has never wanted this fight in the first place.

"easy fight, easy work, probably easier than the Marquez fight".
"all he has to do is call me out".



Manny says he wants to fight Floyd.

"oh, oh, we need an even playing field".


**** outta here lame.

[BoxingTech718]

Bob Arum Called Out for Lying by Top Rank Insider


By CJ James (Contributor) on July 21, 2010 927


Defending Bob Arum is quite hard for a number of reasons. He's a famous liar, well-known to veteran fans as a promoter that tends to totally exaggerate negotiations to ensure that he comes out looking holier than thou.

Team Mayweather wasn't even the first to make these claims. It's been coming out of his own camp.

Michael Marley, the day after Arum's infamous "teleconference," came right out and said it. This was days before Leonard Ellerbe spoke.

Marley, a Top Rank/Pacquiao writer, and a close friend of Arum's, was just as perplexed by Arum's deadline. He didn't get it; he couldn't work out what Arum was up to. So he went digging.

He spoke to his Top Rank people, and was shocked with the answer. Again, this was days before Ellerbe spoke.

Negotiation just hadn't been happening. They'd started, briefly, but capitulated almost instantly, according to Marley.

Marley claimed that Arum had only spoken to Greenburg once, months ago. And that conversation was little more than Arum telling him his demands. Demands that Golden Boy just weren't interested in.

That's basically it. No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals.

Bob Arum, according to Marley, just spent the next five weeks "blowing smoke to the media," to try and confuse the situation and giving the impression that he was breaking his back to make the deal.

When in truth, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was the last thing Arum wanted for 2010.

Why did the talks fail? According to Marley, contrary to most reports, Pacquiao was unwilling to move an inch on drug testing. And Mayweather was unwilling to move an inch on money.

Pretty predictable.

As another example of the way Arum operates, it also turns out that "Pacquiao accepting 14 days" was just more "smoke" as part of the Arum charade.

The original quote from Pacquiao was 100 percent fake. Arum has admitted as much. The second quote from Pacquiao was real, but for PR purposes. Pacquiao's manager denied it was accurate, when quizzed soon after.

To confirm the charade, only days ago, Arum was asked straight up, what drug terms Pacquiao had agreed to and he was unable to give an answer.

This is a man who had an agreement with Mayweather's people? He couldn't even answer what the supposed drug agreement was?

So what actually happened? According to Marley, Arum made these claims days before anyone from team Mayweather spoke out.

Well, Arum has allegedly been fixing a Pacquiao vs. Margarito bout in the Middle East for months. But he knew full well that he couldn't make the fight without being seen to be trying to make Mayweather vs. Pacquiao first.

Plus, HBO, after pressure from Golden Boy, flat out told him that he'd have to approach Mayweather first, or they would not work on a Margarito fight.

Arum, according to Marley, approached Greenburg with his terms for the fight. Terms, Marley suspects, that were never going to be accepted. Terms, that in regards to drug testing, were even worse than the last fight.

That's basically it. Golden Boy felt Arum was not being serious, and had no intention of negotiating further.

Arum played the media, and proclaimed that he was "waiting for Floyd to accept his offer." Which, I guess, was technically true. The big lie came with Arum's claims that these terms had been negotiated and accepted.

Marley claims that this is just 100 percent false. There were no real talks. No deals. No agreements. No contracts.

In a strange way, neither side is technically lying. Most likely, after taking legal advice, they've worded it all very carefully.

Arum claimed that he was waiting for Mayweather to agree to his offer, and had been dealing with Greenberg. The problem being, his dealings with Greenberg amounted to one conversation in which he sent him an awful offer, knowing full well it wouldn't work. No negotiations, talks, or discussions whatsoever.

Arum's offer. Countdown clock. Lots of BS about "terms being agreed by both sides."

Mayweather's people are technically speaking the truth as well. There were never any negotiations, talks, agreements, deals. Just Arum blowing smoke to the press.

Why did Arum exaggerate his efforts so much? Because he wanted to set up Margarito vs. Pacquiao and couldn't justify it without trying to pin the blame on someone else.

Golden Boy? Well Marley claims that there quite literally was a gag order. It's just the fact that the negotiations ended after about two days. You can tell when the fight fell through. Arum started talking to the media twice a day!

Marley claims that Golden Boy's position with Arum is to just let him talk, and not justify his claims with replies, safe in the knowledge that most of the sport world knows he talks out of his behind.

Arum could well find himself in a tough position, however. Dan Raphael reported that Ellerbe is not only one of the most honest guys in boxing, he's also been speaking to Greenberg regularly for weeks. These daily conversations have reportedly gone on after his claim that basically either Greenberg or Arum is a stone cold liar.

Which suggests to most that Greenberg agrees with his pronouncement.

Again, Marley is a Top Rank guy, and a noted Pacquiao backer. He reported that Arum's claims of "negotiations" and "agreements" were phony, days before any Mayweather person made any comment.

Mayweather's guy's wording is probably a bit controversial, and not 100 percent true, but both Marley and Ellebre are basically singing from the same hymn sheet.

Arum completely and utterly exaggerated all claims of "agreements," "deals," "contracts," and "negotiations."

This is what I got from Vito

[War Dinamita]

how about saying that now to save face? its not that hard...there's $60mil on the table with his name on it...the GOAT can't talk now?

Save face? He doesn't need to say anything because people know Arum is a liar and has been lying for a year about this fight.

[7 Mares]

**** is getting redundant how many times it has to be said that extra testing was never needed in the first place.

**** is getting redundant how many times is has to be said that Floyd has never wanted this fight in the first place.

"easy fight, easy work, probably easier than the Marquez fight".
"all he has to do is call me out".



Manny says he wants to fight Floyd.

"oh, oh, we need an even playing field".


**** outta here lame.

There can only be one Johnny in boxingscene and my friend I'm the better looking one.

[ArizonaBaby]

You ****** *******s. If PBF dont want no fight than there aint gonna be no fight cuz. Get with program

PBF is the boss and calls the shots

So what you're saying is basically... Floyd is a bit timid when it comes to little Filipino men on roids?

[Franco2012]

Offer was on the table and Floyd ran away!

Who cares about was it negotiations or it wasnt,Floyd heard about deadline and he said that he is not interested in Pacquiao fight cuz he fought 60 days ago!

[Phenom]

how about saying that now to save face? its not that hard...there's $60mil on the table with his name on it...the GOAT can't talk now?

you're exaggerating on him being torched by the media he doesn't need to save face or say anything really. Ellerbe made a statement for the Mayweather camp and Schaefer stood behind that statement 100%

Manny hasn't came out and said anything either but we all know where he stands