How Hard Is It For Floyd To Come Out And Say...

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Getting a fight done takes two sides. And, like it or not, Floyd has the upper hand here. He agreed to all of Pac's demands in January and had his ridiculed, insulted and then he was blamed for the fight falling apart even after offering a compromise. Since then, he fought the one guy he was "scared" to fight, sold more PPVs then Manny has done in any fight his whole career and did it with OST. And his one statement aimed directly at TR and Pacquiao was "FULL TESTING OR WE DON'T GOT NO FIGHT." He has every right to ignore Arum's "attempts" to make the fight when Arum isn't budging on the test issue. What's he supposed to say? Uhh...

then ****in say that...to anyone...if Arum didn't agree to that then call him out on it



its not hard...really...it would put pressure on Arum to budge



what's the hold up? we have to coddle Floyd's nuts for him to show some interest in making the fight?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

He said something on May 1. And May 2. What else is he supposed to say? Keep repeating it? For your benefit? Or to come out and refute everything Arum's saying (for your benefit too)? You don't have the same perspective he does.

me wanting him to man up and show that Arum is a liar and forcing him to make the fight, i guess not

[IMDAZED]

then ****in say that...to anyone...if Arum didn't agree to that then call him out on it

He did say it. To the whole boxing world on May 1st. You want him to keep repeating it or something?

its not hard...really...it would put pressure on Arum to budge

I would say taking on the biggest threat out there, dominating, selling more PPV's than Pac's ever done, using OST, then saying either OST or no fight, is more pressure than any statement to the media, wouldn't you?

what's the hold up? we have to coddle Floyd's nuts for him to show some interest in making the fight?

What makes you think TR is interested in making the fight? Ahh, because they told YOU they were. See my point?

[IMDAZED]

me wanting him to man up and show that Arum is a liar and forcing him to make the fight, i guess not

LOL @ show Arum is a liar. You people didn't believe him back in January but now if he says something you will? I think Arum does a pretty nice looking like a liar himself.

[Kalion]

"....there was no contract....there was no agreement"


or


"....the **** they sent me was unacceptable...you want a fight? THESE are my demands...."



the biggest mouth in boxing is getting grilled by fans and the media and he can't say anything?


we've seen him JUMP out of retirement just because a fighter 'said his name'


well, he's getting dumped on by everyone right now, what's holding him back?

How hard is it for manny to take a random blood test? He couldve hand picked a company or sanctioning body to test him randomly to prove he wasn't on steroids abd end the speculation. Then we would've known he wasn't ducking the test he was just standing up to floyd abd his "ridiculous" demands abd blood draining tactic.

Manny came up with more excuses than a preacher caught with his pants down but never took a single random test. His names was being mentioned with steroids left and right and what did he do to clear it?

[FLY TY]

me wanting him to man up and show that Arum is a liar and forcing him to make the fight, i guess not

hell has frozen over.


i agree with you.


i believe there were never any talks for the fight, but my only problem is that floyd would've come out of this looking a lot better, if he had came out and said something when oscar "misspoke," and when arum said he had reached an agreement with GBP.


floyd should've come out and said everybody's lying, there have been no ngegotiations....then that would've put pressure on arum to explain.

instead, they remain quiet until arum's "deadline" passes, floyd only says "im not interested, i'm not thinking about boxing..."

as a fan of his, i was dissappointed in that explanation. he should've come out a lot earlier, and kept it real....saying either there were no negotiations, or saying arum hadn't come close to meeting his demands, and was refusing to budge of his own demands, and that negotiations are doubtful. i would've respected that.


right now tho, i'm sick of all these dudes....arum on down.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

He did say it. To the whole boxing world on May 1st. You want him to keep repeating it or something?

I would say taking on the biggest threat out there, dominating, selling more PPV's than Pac's ever done, using OST, then saying either OST or no fight, is more pressure than any statement to the media, wouldn't you?



What makes you think TR is interested in making the fight? Ahh, because they told YOU they were. See my point? [/QUOTE]






let me break this done since you're pretending to be dense



IF Arum did NOT meet those demands or if there was no concession on TR or PAC's side, why not say so?


its all in the first post Dazed....you can read it again til you get it

[The Big Dunn]

dude, seriously, get the **** out of my thread until your develop some kind of complexity in your thinking

What is complexity in thinking?

The man said on May 1 0-cutoff or no fight. I heard it, manny heard it, bob heard it, you heard it. Responding to Arum's stuff gives it credibility. Just keep quiet and let Bob shoot himself in the foot. I think if manny had taken this exact approach regarding testing and not offered several excuses, the issue would've been neutralized already.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

How hard is it for manny to take a random blood test? He couldve hand picked a company or sanctioning body to test him randomly to prove he wasn't on steroids abd end the speculation. Then we would've known he wasn't ducking the test he was just standing up to floyd abd his "ridiculous" demands abd blood draining tactic.

Manny came up with more excuses than a preacher caught with his pants down but never took a single random test. His names was being mentioned with steroids left and right and what did he do to clear it?

read the first post...if Floyd's demands were not met, then he should say so...instead of saying 'im not thinking boxing' he can say 'they know my demands, and they didnt do **** about it'

[-MAKAVELLI-]

What is complexity in thinking?

The man said on May 1 0-cutoff or no fight. I heard it, manny heard it, bob heard it, you heard it. Responding to Arum's stuff gives it credibility. Just keep quiet and let Bob shoot himself in the foot. I think if manny had taken this exact approach regarding testing and not offered several excuses, the issue would've been neutralized already.

who said they didnt agree to full testing?


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