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  • RubenSonny
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    #1

    >>>Break Down These Fights<<<

    Dirrell-Ward(I do understand some of these fights are scheduled and others not. I'm probably most interested in this fight atm, I love chess matches. I'm very big on "the matrix" and I'm gonna put some serious money on him)
    Judah-Ortiz
    Jacobs-Pirog(I haven't seen Pirog but I heard hes impressive, is he worth looking into, maybe placing some cash on him?)
    Gamboa-Rojas(betting on Rojas)
    Calderon-Segura
    Moreno-Anyone(hes an obscure character but my second fav fighter and I think he beats everyone if he is focused, probably one of the most underrated elite fighters on this board. He reminds me of sweetpea...okay am I going overboard?)
    Pac-Perro @154

    You dont have to bother with a fully indepth break down maybe just say who you think wins.

    I'm literally so bored of all this if pac or if may bs that I need to make my own threads, this is suppose to be a place where boxing is discussed not ****** make belief scenarios, in which pac becomes may and vice versa, that are so far fetched trying to comprehend them is a puzzle. Also wtf is with stans from each side defending their fighters promoters? 4real that is nuthuggery on an unbelieveably level, all promoters I know of are scumbags...deal with it.
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    #2
    Originally posted by rubensonnny
    Dirrell-Ward(I do understand some of these fights are scheduled and others not. I'm probably most interested in this fight atm, I love chess matches. I'm very big on "the matrix" and I'm gonna put some serious money on him)
    Judah-Ortiz
    Jacobs-Pirog(I haven't seen Pirog but I heard hes impressive, is he worth looking into, maybe placing some cash on him?)
    Gamboa-Rojas(betting on Rojas)
    Calderon-Segura
    Moreno-Anyone(hes an obscure character but my second fav fighter and I think he beats everyone if he is focused, probably one of the most underrated elite fighters on this board. He reminds me of sweetpea...okay am I going overboard?)
    Pac-Perro @154

    You dont have to bother with a fully indepth break down maybe just say who you think wins.

    I'm literally so bored of all this if pac or if may bs that I need to make my own threads, this is suppose to be a place where boxing is discussed not ****** make belief scenarios, in which pac becomes may and vice versa, that are so far fetched trying to comprehend them is a puzzle. Also wtf is with stans from each side defending their fighters promoters? 4real that is nuthuggery on an unbelieveably level, all promoters I know of are scumbags...deal with it.
    Green K for you.

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      #3
      Originally posted by rubensonnny
      Dirrell-Ward(I do understand some of these fights are scheduled and others not. I'm probably most interested in this fight atm, I love chess matches. I'm very big on "the matrix" and I'm gonna put some serious money on him)
      Judah-Ortiz
      Jacobs-Pirog(I haven't seen Pirog but I heard hes impressive, is he worth looking into, maybe placing some cash on him?)
      Gamboa-Rojas(betting on Rojas)
      Calderon-Segura
      Moreno-Anyone(hes an obscure character but my second fav fighter and I think he beats everyone if he is focused, probably one of the most underrated elite fighters on this board. He reminds me of sweetpea...okay am I going overboard?)
      Pac-Perro @154

      You dont have to bother with a fully indepth break down maybe just say who you think wins.

      I'm literally so bored of all this if pac or if may bs that I need to make my own threads, this is suppose to be a place where boxing is discussed not ****** make belief scenarios, in which pac becomes may and vice versa, that are so far fetched trying to comprehend them is a puzzle. Also wtf is with stans from each side defending their fighters promoters? 4real that is nuthuggery on an unbelieveably level, all promoters I know of are scumbags...deal with it.
      I like Ward>Dirrell. I like Ward intangibles more, I think Ward is more confident in the ring, I think he doesn't panic easy, I think he is very calm and patient and more versatile. Can box, brawl you, make it rough, I just think he would win. However, I do think Dirrell is more talented but Ward has the better intangibles he is more sure of himself IMO.

      Judah-Oritz? I really don't know. Plenty of scenarios can happen in that fight... I am honestly stump in picking a winner.

      Jacobs-Pirog? I would say don't put any money on Pirog. Not cuz Pirog can't win. Because, I honestly think he could win. But, I am not sure if he could get a fair shake with the judges. Is a Golden boy card, Pirog is the visitor, he might need a KO to win. And, I am not if he could get that KO. And, if it goes to the cards I think Jacobs would get the benefit of the doubt and win a controversial decision.

      Gamboa-Rojas? I think this is an even fight. And, Rojas will be the underdog. So that putting money on Rojas might not be a bad idea. Elio Rojas is also very underrated.

      Segura-Calderon? Calderon is the better boxer. However, Segura can punch and Calderon has been down and getting hit more recently. Calderon has probably slowed down enough for Segura to catch him. Intriguing fight this is. Is either going to be a Calderon close decision win or Segura stoppage. I pick the former.

      Pac-Angulo? At 154? Sooner or later going up in weight is going to catch up to you. So sooner or later if Pac keeps going up he will lose. However, I am not sure if Angulo is that guy. He has the style that Pac looks good in. So I see Pac winning but his face looking like he lost.

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        #4
        Originally posted by rubensonnny
        Dirrell-Ward(I do understand some of these fights are scheduled and others not. I'm probably most interested in this fight atm, I love chess matches. I'm very big on "the matrix" and I'm gonna put some serious money on him)
        Judah-Ortiz
        Jacobs-Pirog(I haven't seen Pirog but I heard hes impressive, is he worth looking into, maybe placing some cash on him?)
        Gamboa-Rojas(betting on Rojas)
        Calderon-Segura
        Moreno-Anyone(hes an obscure character but my second fav fighter and I think he beats everyone if he is focused, probably one of the most underrated elite fighters on this board. He reminds me of sweetpea...okay am I going overboard?)
        Pac-Perro @154

        You dont have to bother with a fully indepth break down maybe just say who you think wins.

        I'm literally so bored of all this if pac or if may bs that I need to make my own threads, this is suppose to be a place where boxing is discussed not ****** make belief scenarios, in which pac becomes may and vice versa, that are so far fetched trying to comprehend them is a puzzle. Also wtf is with stans from each side defending their fighters promoters? 4real that is nuthuggery on an unbelieveably level, all promoters I know of are scumbags...deal with it.

        this guy knows his stuff and should help you with the pirog vs jacobs fight

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        • Heru
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          #5
          These are how I see the matchups as of right now, my opinion could change if I closely analyze both fighters.

          Dirrell-Ward - Dirrell will win the exchanges on the outside and it will force Ward to make the commitment to continually force his way inside. Dirrell is great at keeping opponents at a distance, so Ward will have to work hard. AD will win a decision.

          Judah-Ortiz - Ortiz looked pretty shaky a few times vs. Campbell as if he was close to crumbling, but Nate didn't have enough to push the kid over the edge. As of right now, I got Zab by mid-late KO.

          Jacobs-Pirog - Jacobs footwork, stamina, punch output, and speed will carry him to the win.

          Gamboa-Rojas - Rojas will control distance and outbox Gamboa with range finding jab and fast combinations, countering YG when he jumps in. Rojas UD

          Calderon-Segura - Calderon survives Segura's early onslaught and outboxes him to a decision.

          Moreno-Anyone - I made a thread a while back titled Moreno=Young Sweet Pea and was called crazy, but most people don't know **** except what they're told. So it is what it is.

          Pac-Perro @154 - Perro is made for Pacquiao..... to destroy. It would be a white wash.

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          • RubenSonny
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            #6
            bump......come on this it too quick for this thread to die.

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              Ward vs. Dirrell

              Dirrell has the obvious size advantage. In fact, Dirrell is the biggest out of the Super 6 (He's more of a LHW) where as Ward is probably the smallest. I don't see Dirrell lettin' Ward maneuver him around the ring. Look at Hatton's success at Jr WW where he was able to control most guys. Then look at the difference when he tried to do the same to Mayweather and Collazo.

              I see the same thing happening here. You also have to factor in that Dirrell is the better athlete overall. I see Dirrell beating Ward to the punch on the outside/ mid-range, and Ward having to work his way in. Dirrell is no slouch on the inside either, I've seen him rip uppercuts on the inside. So I'm going with Dirrell U.D, bigger, better athlete; faster, better puncher and probably stronger.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Akira Fudo
                Ward vs. Dirrell

                Dirrell has the obvious size advantage. In fact, Dirrell is the biggest out of the Super 6 (He's more of a LHW) where as Ward is probably the smallest. I don't see Dirrell lettin' Ward maneuver him around the ring. Look at Hatton's success at Jr WW where he was able to control most guys. Then look at the difference when he tried to do the same to Mayweather and Collazo.

                I see the same thing happening here. You also have to factor in that Dirrell is the better athlete overall. I see Dirrell beating Ward to the punch on the outside/ mid-range, and Ward having to work his way in. Dirrell is no slouch on the inside either, I've seen him rip uppercuts on the inside. So I'm going with Dirrell U.D, bigger, better athlete; faster, better puncher and probably stronger.
                I agree but Ward skills remind me of Hopkins, just a little bit busier and slightly more pleasing on the eye, think he will make things real ugly like Froch did, Dirrells skill set is superb though and on paper should win, hes a pure boxer he may have to show a little more ring generalship than hes shown before if Ward trys to diffuse his outside style and speed and power.

                Makings of a real intresting fight if your a hardcore boxing fan

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