I have been reading some reports that many close to Mosely are blaming his wife for his recent swan dive from any real comptetive level. His father, in fact, has hinted it. I kind of chalked it up to being a juice freak who was way too bulky to be fighting where he was. Any thoughts?
Did Mosley's wife ruin him?
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Originally posted by DuncanI have been reading some reports that many close to Mosely are blaming his wife for his recent swan dive from any real comptetive level. His father, in fact, has hinted it. I kind of chalked it up to being a juice freak who was way too bulky to be fighting where he was. Any thoughts?
I think Mosley was ruined by the second round of his fight with Forrest.
Go watch that fight again....up until then, Mosley was looking as sharp as he always did (lb4lb best-sharp)....but, he makes a mistake....eats a mammoth punch, & gets the daylights beaten out of him from there on.
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I think Shane just is not a natural 154 pounder. He needs to get back down to 147 at least.
I have heard that his wife can be a bit bitchy, but I don't think that's related to his disappointing performances of late.Comment
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Sugar Shane's wife didn't ruin him, Vernon Forrest's head-butt basically ended Shane's career as a top-flight fighter. That last reply hit the nail on the head, Round 2 of Mosley-Forrest 1 was the beginning of the end for the Sugarman. Remember when Forrest head-butted Mayorga in their first fight? Mayorga went back to the corner and in his native language made a comment to the effect of "That n-----r's head is HARD!!!" This was coming from a guy in Mayorga who never admits to pain or fear. I'm glad Forrest has been on the shelf for nearly 2 years now, the sport is better without him, and I only wish that he hadn't ruined Mosley's career the way he did. - SacTown1
PS what's with the cats from Georgia and head-butts? Holyfield, Forrest, & even Sam Garr went head-first against James Page all night. I hate those punks!Comment
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Shane's best weight IMO is 135/140. He made a fatal error by putting on all that mass in order to get the big fights. I think after he beat Oscar the first time, his head blew up where he thought that he can actually fight these big guys and that just wasnt the case. He may have made millions as a result, but he could of made millions at 140 and 135 as well. To think that he was thinking about facing Trinidad at 160 prior to Wright beating him.Comment
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mosley would have dominated 140 (dont know if he could beat KT but it would have been one hella of a fight)
my thoughts:i dont think size or reach have anything to do here with him at 154...it just plain and simple he's doesnt do good at that weight (look at Lamotta-he was 5'7-5'8 and was a great 160 punder,just some can and come cant)
his power is weak at this weight and he doesnt handle it well..i say he does down to 147..or if he could..try to go down to 140 again and fight Floyd mayweather
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Things would be very interesting at 140 if a decent version of Mosley was there, he could have made a lot of money against Gatti, Tszyu, Mayweather etc.Originally posted by Rick ReenoShane's best weight IMO is 135/140. He made a fatal error by putting on all that mass in order to get the big fights. I think after he beat Oscar the first time, his head blew up where he thought that he can actually fight these big guys and that just wasnt the case. He may have made millions as a result, but he could of made millions at 140 and 135 as well. To think that he was thinking about facing Trinidad at 160 prior to Wright beating him.
I cant blame the guy for chasing DLH up to light middle but he should have gone back to 147 after it.Comment
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That is not what Mayorga said. He said, "That black guy hits hard," not that his head is hard. I've watched the fight many times and he said it at the end of the 3rd round. I speak spanish so don't even try and argue that point with me. Nobody denies that Forrest has a great right hand, either.Originally posted by SacTown1Sugar Shane's wife didn't ruin him, Vernon Forrest's head-butt basically ended Shane's career as a top-flight fighter. That last reply hit the nail on the head, Round 2 of Mosley-Forrest 1 was the beginning of the end for the Sugarman. Remember when Forrest head-butted Mayorga in their first fight? Mayorga went back to the corner and in his native language made a comment to the effect of "That n-----r's head is HARD!!!" This was coming from a guy in Mayorga who never admits to pain or fear. I'm glad Forrest has been on the shelf for nearly 2 years now, the sport is better without him, and I only wish that he hadn't ruined Mosley's career the way he did. - SacTown1
PS what's with the cats from Georgia and head-butts? Holyfield, Forrest, & even Sam Garr went head-first against James Page all night. I hate those punks!
What ruined Shane, as I've said before, was the 'roids. He was into that Barry Bonds/Jason Giambi Balco ****. Everyone knows that steroids don't mix with boxing because, 1. you lose flexibility, and 2. you don't have as much stamina. He gained muscle mass but it hurt him in the end because he can't fight at the higher weights. He should've never gone above 147 and, even that, might be too much for a fighter who started at 130.Comment
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Mosley won amateur championships at 140.
I thought it was odd that he turned pro UNDER that weight class.Comment
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