If Bernard loses......

[Memorex]

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thats what it says, but i got 100 posts, is there something else i need?

did u get ur 100 post today. if u did i think u have to wait till tomorrow.

[PapiShasho]

taylor WILL win, and it wont ruin bernards "legacy" to me because in my eyes he barely has any "legacy" to begin with.

[IwatchBoxing]

Hopkins only legacy is having a record defenses (Trinidad has that, and more at Welterweight), and two wins over Trinidad, DLH, from weights below. It wont hurt him cause he is just a great middleweight, he has never gone off the call of duty, he has allways walked a straight line, frankly I'm not atleast bit excited about this fight, epacly since its PPV.

[FrankJack]

If noone wants to give him his props now, then no one ever will. A win against Taylor won't help his legacy but a loss will hurt it, because people have been looking for something to discredit his talent. Hopkins has fought two former welterweight fighters. One being Tito Trinidad who KNOCKED OUT then middleweight champ William Joppy in a couple of rounds and then defeated David Reid. Joppy's been knocked out by how many other middleweight fighters? Zero. How many said that Tito was gonna knock Hopkins out? Be honest, now, because I KNOW there were alot. Tito was a legit middleweight if you ask me, just because he didn't start there doesn't mean that he couldn't fight at that level.

OSCAR didn't belong in the middleweight division. And even though it just wasn't realistic after seeing the Sturm fight, how many people thought that Oscar was gonna beat Hopkins? I know there were alot of people on this board choosing Oscar. Tito didn't lose stamina, strength, or speed in the move up to middleweight, so how's he blown up? MAYORGA is much closer to the definition of "blown up middleweight" than Tito.

Man, peeps wanna dismiss Hopkins for fighting two former welterweights, but wasn't some of Hagler's biggest fights against former welterweights??? As a matter of fact, what weight did Roberto Duran start his career at? 118 or 119 lbs? Is Duran considered a blown up fighter, cus this guy moved up pretty far. Somebody correct me on that weight if I'm wrong, though, cus I might be.

Alot of people thought that Howard Eastman would knock him out, but he lost too. If nothing else, you have to admit that everybody aside from Jones jr. that people said he was going to lose to, he defeated.

[PapiShasho]

point is, he wont beat taylor. if by some miraculous occurence he happens to edge out a win, he'll definitely get props, especially at his age.

but, his claim to fame is a win over tito, who was way overrated as a middleweight to begin with, and who winky beat with even greater ease then hopkins did.

therefore, ill consider hopkins an all time great when he beats winky wright, who he wont even fight (i wonder why).

[FrankJack]

No doubt, I dunno if he'll beat Taylor. It's difficult for me to put faith in his fights when he's got so few left. But, I'd really like to know why Tito was overrated as a middleweight. If Tito is overrated, were the middleweights he beat just not good? Because I've never heard anyone say that about them before. Also, why is Wright suddenly being big upped? Pre-Mosely, who began in the 130's, who talked about this guy? Lost a decision to Vargas, who began in the high 140's. Lost to a guy named Harry Simon. And was knocked down, what, 4 times against Vasquez. So, he fights Tito and defeats Tito, the "blown up welterweight" in a decision. Why does Winky get respect for outpointing Trinidad and Hopkins can't get any for making his Pops come in to stop it? A knockout versus a decion, which is better? Hopkins beat Tito inside and out, outboxed him and outbrawled him (who's ever outbrawled Tito?). Winky's been around for a minute and noone mentioned him. HIS THREE biggest fights were against fighters who moved up. One defeated him. Mosely a former 130's figher HURT him a good rematch, and the other was decisioned after his weaknesses being exposed by two previous fighters. Why is Winky suddenly great? And what does he have that will give Hopkins trouble? And WHY is he worth fighting more than Jones jr. or Tarver?

[Parodius]

20 straight wins in championship fight, speaks for it self. I think Taylor will win. But Hopkins should be considered one of the greatest middleweights of all time, even if he loses. The first man to beat Tito & also the first man to KO Tito & Oscar. I don't think people should be talking about a few pounds difference between super welterweight & middleweight. Heavyweight fights boxers that are 50 to 70 pounds heavier then them. This whole wait issue is completely bull**** & overrated. Another thing about Hopkins, he probably didn't let anyone to become a star, because he beat everyone. Hopkins is the greatest 40 years old boxer of all time, I don't think any boxer at his age was this good, I think the 40 years old Hopkins would've beaten the 28 years old Hopkins. This is another thing he should be respected for, no middleweight in the history of boxing at age 40 would've beaten the 40 years old Hopkins period.

[Manny_P]

It's Tayler's time. Lets do do tis Jermain. Drop his ass to the canvass!

[Eman]

point is, he wont beat taylor. if by some miraculous occurence he happens to edge out a win, he'll definitely get props, especially at his age.

but, his claim to fame is a win over tito, who was way overrated as a middleweight to begin with, and who winky beat with even greater ease then hopkins did.

therefore, ill consider hopkins an all time great when he beats winky wright, who he wont even fight (i wonder why).

Exactly, i think hes gotta beat winky, taylor and jones so really be a great but i dont think he will