PBF wont get credit for the Hatton, JMM, SSM wins...

**Home town hero** · 07-19-2010, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by hugh grant

so should sign to fight Pac, and if he were to beat Pac, would make up for all those fights he wont get credit for winning. Pac would not only be his best win ever but only worthy win of late.

Hatton was at147 with home advantage and a talk with the ref about hattons dirty tactics before the fight. So the ref missed PBFs elbows.
JMM was two divisions above his natural weight. And well SSM was old man.

Your talking out of your ass, hatton that fought mayweather was twice that fought pac. JMM is just another W on the record ill give you that. But SSM was the guy that destroyed margarito. The same marg that everyone goes on abut mayweather ducking him. SSM was and is a very good win, Hatton was good two weight undefeated champ but marquez is nothing.

**Doctor_Tenma** · 07-19-2010, 09:28 AM

Actually I gave him credit for those wins, Marquez not so much, but I gave him credit nontheless.

**hugh grant** · 07-19-2010, 09:30 AM

But PBFs critics belittle PBF for fighting Hatton at 147 with home advantage and talk with the ref before the fight.

IF PBF cares and dont want to be criticized he wont go far wrong by fighting and beating Pac. It will go a long way to shutting his critics up that wont give him credit for the wins he made easier for himself.

**2501** · 07-19-2010, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Home town hero

Your talking out of your ass, hatton that fought mayweather was twice that fought pac. JMM is just another W on the record ill give you that. But SSM was the guy that destroyed margarito. The same marg that everyone goes on abut mayweather ducking him. SSM was and is a very good win, Hatton was good two weight undefeated champ but marquez is nothing.

Right because the Hatton that fought Mayweather wouldn't have gotten his wig split by Pacquiao because that Hatton fought completely different. Jesus ****ing christ you guys are awesome.

**Dick Buffman** · 07-19-2010, 10:08 AM

This is definitely the sober view.

I give him some credit for the Hatton fight, but not much cuz' of the weight issue ( he lost to Collazo imo at 47) and the fact that Hatton was never that good to begin with.

JMM and Shane are both joke fights for different reasons.

**BoxingHistory** · 07-19-2010, 10:11 AM

Floyd will never get the credit he deserves because his gift is a curse. He is a genius when he steps inside that squared circle. You can hate him for a lot of things but his boxing ability is not one of them. So when he beats Pac then the boxing writers and fans will discredit that win then suggest that he fight someone bigger. It is a lose lose situation for him. It's a damn if u do damn if u don't type of thing.

**Chups** · 07-19-2010, 10:34 AM

Even if he didn't get credit, he got the money.

**hugh grant** · 07-19-2010, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by BoxingHistory

Floyd will never get the credit he deserves because his gift is a curse. He is a genius when he steps inside that squared circle. You can hate him for a lot of things but his boxing ability is not one of them. So when he beats Pac then the boxing writers and fans will discredit that win then suggest that he fight someone bigger. It is a lose lose situation for him. It's a damn if u do damn if u don't type of thing.

He will get credit for beating Pac make no mistake about that, even though he didnt for hatton and JMM wins. It is not a lose lose situation considering the pandemonium in trying to arrange this fight. But if he does beat Pac, then maybe stepping up is only option left to him.

IF, and its a big IF, he beats Pac, you could say all would be forgiven as regards his Hatton and JMM performances and they would be put into perspective.
If he beat Pac very well, his critics would have to admit and concede and say, even if PBF didnt have home advantage and it was at 140 he would still have beaten Hatton. But at this minute not everyone is entirely convinced of it.
Pac beating Hatton much more efficiently than PBF counts against PBF big time. But again, if PBF were to beat Pac, Pacs more impressive win over Hatton wouldnt count against PBF so much.
Theres so much to gain from beating Pac is what im saying. Actually there is more for PBF to gain than Pac to gain.

**Vito Corleone** · 07-19-2010, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by hugh grant

so should sign to fight Pac, and if he were to beat Pac, would make up for all those fights he wont get credit for winning. Pac would not only be his best win ever but only worthy win of late.

Hatton was at147 with home advantage and a talk with the ref about hattons dirty tactics before the fight. So the ref missed PBFs elbows.
JMM was two divisions above his natural weight. And well SSM was old man.

If he won't get credit for JMM and SSM, on what basis was Floyd voted ESPN Fighter of the Year? (fan voting)
On what basis was he voted Yahoo! Sports #1 p4p and Ring Magazine #2 p4p? (media voting)

Sounds like both the media and fans respected those wins.

PBF wont get credit for the Hatton, JMM, SSM wins...