Floyd Jr. - Being avoided, or being ****** ?

[urdaddyinAZ]

Where are you from because I said in the U.S. Zoo doesnt fill up the house like Gatti does

I'm from Phoenix.......Gatti may be more popular on the East coast (actually overall), but ask a non boxing fan if they know you either one are........then ask if they know who DLH is?

[DLT]

So please enlighten me here, is Floyd choosing Gatti for the fans he would pick up with a victory or is it for the money or both?

I would bet you that if Floyd fights Zoo that the paycheck would be earily similiar to the paycheck that he would recieve for fighting Gatti...if I am not mistaken Zoo fought a washed up Leija to in Australia and sold his venue out as well....Tell Floyd to go to Australia or Russia to fight Zoo...my point is and if it is off base please give me your guestamation how much money are we talking about? Floyd is choosing Gatti because he is going to make how much??? And he is not yet interested in Zoo because as you say 1)he won't snag some casual boxing fans that watch Gatti fights and 2)make a lot less money...

I think he would make more money than you or I realize if he decided Zoo was who he wanted. You make it sound like Floyd is going to make far more money fighting Gatti than Zoo, I am not an expert in contracts or for that matter know very little about them overall but I bet that the money difference is peanuts...say Floyd can get 1 million more which we both don't know about, is that worth it? It may be if he can attract casual boxing fans, but I seriously dont he attracts that many on a gatti payperview card...remember all three ward/gatti's were free, no one has ever paid for a gatti fight. So 1 million more and he attracts a few more fans, or he becomes undisputed 140 champ and makes 5 million instead of six...hmmmm

Fighters like Vargas. Hopkins and Mosley pray/call out/beg a guy like Oscar to fight them because they then recieve a paycheck that can reach double digits in the millions if things go well...if they don't fight a guy like Oscar Bernard ends up fighting Eastman for a mil or two and Shane gets to fight Winky for a mil, both fights you can make the case are tougher fights than a match with Oscar....

This is simply not the case with Floyd, Gatti is not Oscar, he's not Felix, although he is a bifg name I am not convinced that people will shell out a lot of money for apyperview... Floyd makes in my opinion almost the same either way, if we were talking 7million for Gatti and 1.8million for KT I would be with you, but DLT I think we both have an idea of the money invloved and we both vary quite a bit as to how much that really is...

Read post #14. It's not just about Gatti and Zoo straight up although it would still be a big difference, but you have to factor in the two different networks. It basicly cuts everthing in half. It would be alot more different then 1 million. I even here Zoo calling out Gatti because he knows thats a big money fight even with the two different networks. So imagine how big a fight with Gatti would be if you are on the same network. Dont get me wrong, Gatti is definatly not Oscar, but he's the closest one to him around 140

[Sir_Jose]

None of us know for sure about the real struggles to put fights together....
But, what's your opinion on Mayweather's future ?

Is this guy just not worth it (high risk, not a whole lot of reward) to the other marketable fighters around him...
or is Floyd overestimating his own value (that's the "******" part) ?

avoided. Gatti and his people are running scared

[scap]

1)I think you are overrating Gatti's popularity nation wide and 2)if the networks can't deliver a Floyd v. Zoo fight than Floyd will have too wait 2 or 3 years maybe longer to become a champion again because he can't become any kind of champ in my book until he meets Zoo.

[DLT]

1)I think you are overrating Gatti's popularity nation wide and 2)if the networks can't deliver a Floyd v. Zoo fight than Floyd will have too wait 2 or 3 years maybe longer to become a champion again because he can't become any kind of champ in my book until he meets Zoo.

He will fight Zoo, but that will be after the Gatti fight. Also what makes Zoo the real champ. I dont argue that he is but at the same time these are new guys at 140 and he hasnt beat any of them. The guys who are at 140 now are better then the guys in the past. He hasnt faught Floyd, Harris, Gatti, Hatton, or Cotto. Also I'm not overating Gatti's popularity. I alread said that he is nowhere near Oscar, but he is the only guy who can go PPV at 140. The only other person that Floyd could go PPV with is Zoo, but the money would be much less

[DLT]

I also see think that the most likely senerio is that they will meet at 147