Mayweather vs Pac...could be made next week..

[JulVal]

I am staying in context of the discussion, You claimed that Mayweather said Pacquiao was on roids or "assumed" he was on it. I'm just backing up the claim that Mayweather never came out and said "He's on roids", He just made one simple justified request. You have no idea what he was "assuming" so please dont act like you do. By rejecting it, Pacquiao made himself look guilty. People can blame Floyd all they want, But when Pacquiao came out and refused the test. People were always going to start talking and that's not Floyd's fault, It's Pacquiao's fault.

First off, I never claimed that Mayweather said that Pacquiao was on roids. I only claimed that by doing what he did and by saying the things he said, those who blindly follow him has believed that Pacquiao is on roids. Oh and if this does not imply that he believes that Pacquiao is taking roids then I don't know what will :
"A fighter doesn't start off like Manny Pacquiao, just ordinary, and then once he gets over the age of 25 he becomes and extraordinary fighter. It just doesn't work like that in this sport of boxing,"

Are you really going to play dumb just to prove your point? Are you telling me that his drug testing request is really just a crusade to clean up the sports? Wow. I know you're not this dumb based on how you write. You are right on some point though, there are only two possibilities on why Mayweather would request OST, either he suspects Pacquiao, or he is scared of Pacquiao. I believe you and I won't like the latter answer so I'll just stick to the him being su****ious.

[PrinceCharlez]

Quite frankly, you haven't owned nobody but yourself.

By proving that you are a true *****. What's wrong with the previous contract terms? If you really want the fight to happen, you know that that's the only fair way it's going to happen. You guys only care about what Floyd want and the advantages Floyd get. While real FANS just wants the fight to ****ing happen despite contract agreements and all that ****.

Im was a Pac fan, but the bias view towards him and the way that people hype him up sickens me. You pac fans have made me not like the dude what so ever. You guys have created this bad blood in boxing that will never go away.

When FLoyd was on top of the world before he retired there was no Manny Pacquiao Floyd talk. After Manny Pacquiao beat Oscar at 147 a weight he hadnt fought at in over a decade, the people said WHERES FLoyd? We want to see Floyd vs Manny. SO what did Floyd do? He did what he always does and thats try to give the fans what they want. He came out of retirement which he said he wouldnt do unless a big fight presented itself, which was Manny. He made the announcement on the night of Manny vs Hatton, Floyd was showing Manny no respect then cuz he wanted to fight him. If Floyd was so scared of Manny he wouldve just stayed retired but he didnt. He fought Marquez to prove that he too can beat an opponent better then Pac can, just like Pac was beating Opponents better then Floyd did. It was all to make a mega fight. Then from the Jump Floyds father told him to have him tested and Roach said thats fine he can be tested anytime. They threw that weight clause in the contract, they asked for 50/50, they asked for glove size, ring size. ANd when Floyd agreed to all the terms, they said the testing was wrong, backed out and fought clottey. Floyd went on to face Shane who is a more dangerous opponent then CLottey. Shane was the WW champ and he dominated him. But all you fans say is "floyd is scared, he only fights small guys"...that **** is dumb!

And i want to see the fight aswell. But how can we see it when Arum is playing games? One minute they dont agree, next minute they do. Then he feel floyd may want to wait until Aug before he agrees to see the status of his uncle...well if he felt that way why not wait till Aug to negotiate the fight and have it in dec?? its little games like that, that i cant stand...but pac fans dont see it that way..

[JulVal]

Excuses for not testing:
1) against his religion
2) Its zaps him and makes him weak for days
3)Scared of needles
4)Thats how he lost to Erik
5)It gave him hematoma in his elbow
6)Arum said fighters can get aids and Hep B
7) Floyd hasnt asked anyone else to do it
8)The commission didnt ask for it
9)The take way too much blood

You can honestly sit here and say that Floyd knew that if he asked for a blood test all this would follow? If Manny would've said "you can test me anytime, im clean". It wouldve been over with and done right then in there, but when one starts refusing such a little test, thats when your reputation falls in the mud. And since when do you need proof that an athlete is using peds before testing them? There was no proof that Mosley, Vargus, James Toney was cheating but they all tested positive. There was no evidence that McGuire, Marrion Jones was cheating but they tested positive or came clean about cheating. There was no evidence that Margarito had cheated Cotto, but he got banned for cheating cotto. They check fighters hand wraps before fights, why not test them before fights. You dont need proof to test people.


My question for Manny is...Why wouldnt he want FLoyd to test? Why doesnt he care rather his opponent is cheating or not? Dont say cuz hes not a *****. Regardless if you can beat your opponent if hes clean or not its the principle of it. That fighter shouldnt be in the ring, or making millions if he is cheating to get to the top..

This is getting out of hand, the topic has been if Floyd was talking **** to Pacquiao. Well the simple answer is yes he has been. He's been calling Pacquiao ordinary, implying that he is using PEDSs, saying that Pacquaio is easy work, and all that bull****.

You're over explaining and expanding simple arguments just to get to your point which is nothing. What your saying has never been on the context of whether Floyd was talkign **** to Pacquiao.

What you're doing is further further justifying your status as a Pacquiao hater and a Floyd lover. So ****ing what? Believe what you want to believe, my simple point which you over complicate is that Floyd talks **** and has tarnished Pacquiao's reputation. So don't go around saying that he hasn't and he doesnt. END OF STORY.

[andre the giant]

Man gtfo with your i was a pac fan thats ****ing bull**** and nobody believes it :/ .

[JulVal]

Im was a Pac fan, but the bias view towards him and the way that people hype him up sickens me. You pac fans have made me not like the dude what so ever. You guys have created this bad blood in boxing that will never go away.

When FLoyd was on top of the world before he retired there was no Manny Pacquiao Floyd talk. After Manny Pacquiao beat Oscar at 147 a weight he hadnt fought at in over a decade, the people said WHERES FLoyd? We want to see Floyd vs Manny. SO what did Floyd do? He did what he always does and thats try to give the fans what they want. He came out of retirement which he said he wouldnt do unless a big fight presented itself, which was Manny. He made the announcement on the night of Manny vs Hatton, Floyd was showing Manny no respect then cuz he wanted to fight him. If Floyd was so scared of Manny he wouldve just stayed retired but he didnt. He fought Marquez to prove that he too can beat an opponent better then Pac can, just like Pac was beating Opponents better then Floyd did. It was all to make a mega fight. Then from the Jump Floyds father told him to have him tested and Roach said thats fine he can be tested anytime. They threw that weight clause in the contract, they asked for 50/50, they asked for glove size, ring size. ANd when Floyd agreed to all the terms, they said the testing was wrong, backed out and fought clottey. Floyd went on to face Shane who is a more dangerous opponent then CLottey. Shane was the WW champ and he dominated him. But all you fans say is "floyd is scared, he only fights small guys"...that **** is dumb!

I don't care about your sentiments to be honest. I don't care whethere you like Pacquiao, hates his fans, love Floyd, or whatsoever. I don't care about you quite frankly.

I like Pacquiao because of Pacquiao, I like Floyd because of Floyd's boxing skills. I don't hate on anybody because of their fans, I don't like Floyd's attitude for example but he simply just WOWs me every time he fights.
That's what I care about, B-O-X-I-N-G. Not a fighter's fan, not you, not anybody.

[JK1700]

First off, I never claimed that Mayweather said that Pacquiao was on roids. I only claimed that by doing what he did and by saying the things he said, those who blindly follow him has believed that Pacquiao is on roids. Oh and if this does not imply that he believes that Pacquiao is taking roids then I don't know what will :
"A fighter doesn't start off like Manny Pacquiao, just ordinary, and then once he gets over the age of 25 he becomes and extraordinary fighter. It just doesn't work like that in this sport of boxing,"

Are you really going to play dumb just to prove your point? Are you telling me that his drug testing request is really just a crusade to clean up the sports? Wow. I know you're not this dumb based on how you write. You are right on some point though, there are only two possibilities on why Mayweather would request OST, either he suspects Pacquiao, or he is scared of Pacquiao. I believe you and I won't like the latter answer so I'll just stick to the him being su****ious.

I already proved my point......but you are too dumb to understand. Debating with *******s really is pointless, They can't even understand simple logic. Oh well.

[JulVal]

I already proved my point......but you are too dumb to understand. Debating with *******s really is pointless, They can't even understand simple logic. Oh well.

And your point was? You are just as ******ed as the thread starter. You go too much out of context because off your butts hurting when anything negative is said about Floyd.

Re-read my first posts again and you'd probably get the exact point of the conversation. I am not talking about drug testing, nor am I talking about whether the drug testing is justified, or whether there were needs for drug testing. All I'm trying to ****ing say is that whether directly or indirectly, Floyd has talked **** and has tarnished Pacquiao's reputation in some way as response to this.

Floyd Mayweather hasnt said anything about pacman or tarnished his name in anyway...Top Rank should do the same..

I bolded it and quoted it out for you. You ****ing out of context ******s. You can't even keep up to a conversation. It's so ****ing funny when you guys don't have anything to say anymore, you mention the word ******* despite not knowing the fact that I also am a fan of Floyd. ****ing ****** haters.

[Whodini]

No cure for *******ation..

***** got own hahaha!!!!