To be honest, Santa Cruz was a bum

**jrosales13** · 07-17-2010, 09:30 AM

He was not always a bum. Santa Cruz in his prime was a hard nosed fighter. Solid come forward fighter... Got robbed against Casamayor. Granted Casamayor was downhill at the time.

But, Santa Cruz was not a bum at one point. He is just a shot fighter now that is all. It happens.

**southcentralcar** · 07-17-2010, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by THE NAMELESS

I don't know much about this guy. however, in my eyes, a guy against judah looked like a bum back then. i have no idea how come judah can gain such a hype that people claim his gonna beat khan or any other top fighters with that fight.
Am i being pessimistic? perhaps.but i will never say anything until he face real guy like a bradly.

ok, dont say anything.

**THE NAMELESS** · 07-17-2010, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by jrosales13

He was not always a bum. Santa Cruz in his prime was a hard nosed fighter. Solid come forward fighter... Got robbed against Casamayor. Granted Casamayor was downhill at the time.

But, Santa Cruz was not a bum at one point. He is just a shot fighter now that is all. It happens.

maybe i should check his last fight to see how great he was. but he was definitely disappointing not just me but others at that moment.

**jrosales13** · 07-17-2010, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by THE NAMELESS

I don't know much about this guy. however, in my eyes, a guy against judah looked like a bum back then. i have no idea how come judah can gain such a hype that people claim his gonna beat khan or any other top fighters with that fight.
Am i being pessimistic? perhaps.but i will never say anything until he face real guy like a bradly.

I don't think Judah could beat any of the top 3 JWWs... A fight with Urango might be 50-50. That actually would be a good fight.

Judah vs Joan Guzman is the way to go right now... It is a nice fight for both guys.

Beat Guzman, and possibly one more fight against Urango then I would be calling for Khan and Alexander to fight him.

Bradley beats him. He might have trouble early but the 2nd half of the fight Bradley would dominate. So much so that he might even stop Judah. And, Bradley is not even a hard hitter but that is how dominant Bradley would be.

**jrosales13** · 07-17-2010, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by THE NAMELESS

maybe i should check his last fight to see how great he was. but he was definitely disappointing not just me but others at that moment.

He was never great. He was just a solid-to a good hard nosed fighter in his prime. Santa Cruz is just shot now. Never great but just a solid tough fighter. Lower ranked fighter not just shot.

**gatagata** · 07-17-2010, 09:36 AM

I know Santa Clause was a bum but I still think that Khan would lose if he fought with Zab.

**gatagata** · 07-17-2010, 09:36 AM

But I think Zab loses to Bradley and Alexander.

**THE NAMELESS** · 07-17-2010, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by jrosales13

I don't think Judah could could beat any of the top 3 JWWs... A fight with Urango might be 50-50. That actually would be a good fight.
Judah vs Joan Guzman is the way to go right now... It is a nice fight for both guys.

Beat Guzman, and possibly one more fight against Urango then I would be calling for Khan and Alexander to fight him.

Bradley beats him. He might have trouble early but the 2nd half of the fight Bradley would dominate. So much so that he might even stop Judah. And, Bradley is not even a hard hitter but that is how dominant Bradley would be.

yeah. that's what i also want to see.i hope judah beat him.

**Kobe B Bryant** · 07-17-2010, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by jrosales13

I don't think Judah could could beat any of the top 3 JWWs... A fight with Urango might be 50-50. That actually would be a good fight.

Judah vs Joan Guzman is the way to go right now... It is a nice fight for both guys.

Beat Guzman, and possibly one more fight against Urango then I would be calling for Khan and Alexander to fight him.

Bradley beats him. He might have trouble early but the 2nd half of the fight Bradley would dominate. So much so that he might even stop Judah. And, Bradley is not even a hard hitter but that is how dominant Bradley would be.

Bradley never stops anyone. Even if he headbutted Judah like Ward headbutted Kessler, can he stop anyone.

To be honest, Santa Cruz was a bum