Why do fighters have to go to the USA to prove themselves?

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  • The Wire
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    Why do fighters have to go to the USA to prove themselves?

    What does going to America have to do with anything? Why do Americans believe that European fighters won't be able to do anything once they get to the States? How's about Vitali Klitscko? Naseem Hamed (he fought and won in the States a number of times, and the fight with Barrera was closer than everyone thinks)? Lloyd Honeghan? Steve Collins? Jean Marc Mormeck? Robin Reid is going over to America to fight Lacey. Lennox Lewis? These are just a handful of European fighters that have been over to the States and proved themselves. Soon you will be able to add Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe to that list. But what does it matter if you are fighting in Britain anyway? A win over someone like Kostya Tszyu or Gerald Mclellan is as good in Europe as it is anywhere else. The ref in the Mclellan fight was French, and this was down to WBC ******ity and hindered both fighters as neither spoke French. My main point is that it is who you fight and beat that matters, not where you fight. You can get a helping hand from the ref's and judges, but it would be the same for an American fighter fighting in the States.
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    #2
    I'll give you a quick no-nonsense answer; they come here(USA) for the money.

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    • The Wire
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      #3
      That's fair enough, but not really what I meant. I mean why do people (americans) refuse to give a European fighter the respect the deserve until they fight in the states, eg Ricky Hatton. Thats an example, dont worry about writing long lists of why you dont respect Hatton.

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      • scap
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        #4
        Originally posted by BostonGuy
        I'll give you a quick no-nonsense answer; they come here(USA) for the money.

        Not always, Ricky Hatton when he finally does come across the pond wont do so for the money rather the exposure.

        Hatton could fight you at Man U arena and he would sell the place out...KT fought HAtton because of the money and the money fight was in the UK not USA.

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        • Derranged_
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          #5
          Originally posted by scap
          Not always, Ricky Hatton when he finally does come across the pond wont do so for the money rather the exposure.

          Hatton could fight you at Man U arena and he would sell the place out...KT fought HAtton because of the money and the money fight was in the UK not USA.
          Point taken. I over-simplified my answer.

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          • joeboxer
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            #6
            The Real Reason is the competition level.

            Did you know that there are more proffesional boxers in New York city than all of great Britain?










            Actually I made that up. But it is basically true. In the US their are boxers thus the competition level is higher.

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            • DiegoFuego
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              #7
              One question...have you ever seen a fight in Germany that went to the scorecards and pitted a German against a foreigner? There's your answer

              The United States is the most impartial landscape to fight on, and the focal point of worldwide boxing. If you don't fight here, you are a NOBODY

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              • EXIGE
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                Basically its only the Americans who promote this idea that their venue is the best, and others have to go along with it otherwise a fighter wont get recognition.

                Well i think otherwise and all you have to do is look at KT-Hatton. I mean this board couldnt stop talking about the damn fight, and people who would normally brush Hatton off now pay attention to him and everything he says/every interview he conducts/every fighter he challenges etc.etc.

                Americans seem to think that the location makes a big difference. I tend to concentrate on the quality of the boxing, but if the Americans wanna ***** that Hatton hasnt come out of his own backyard then they may do. It wont affect the performance if he does or doesnt though.

                How about mayweather comes over here. He hasnt moved out of his backyard.

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                • elveiel
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                  One question...have you ever seen a fight in Germany that went to the scorecards and pitted a German against a foreigner? There's your answer

                  The United States is the most impartial landscape to fight on, and the focal point of worldwide boxing. If you don't fight here, you are a NOBODY
                  I dont think it is, there's only Germany and Italy that are bad(****ing terrible), anywhere else is at least as fair as the US.

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                  • Bombardier
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                    #10
                    Simple answer: the U.S. has produced by far the most heavyweight champs over the years. This is (or was) boxing's glamour division, so the States became the world centre for boxing. They've kicked ass in middleweight, as well, which is the #2 division.

                    If the U.S. starts hosting every World Cup and rugby championship, then you can start complaining.

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