How can a boxer be an ATG without fighting the best in his division ?

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  • daggum
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    #11
    Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
    ROFL...

    Pac vs Diaz at 135?
    Pac vs Hatton at 140 after being knocked out? Wasn't Bradley the top guy at 140?
    Mosley was lineal 147 champ and Mayweather beat him

    So I guess Pac isn't an ATG. Atleast Mayweather has fought most of the top guys in his divisions while moving up. I think he was the lineal champ in all the divisions he won titles in. Pac hasn't since 130 and the Marquez win is disputable...
    so many things wrong dear lord. good try though?

    bradley wasn't the top guy till after hatton got knocked out by pac. did you think gatti vs mayweather was for the lineal championship of 140 and delahoya vs mayweather was for the lineal championship at 154? wrong.

    and being lineal champ doesn't mean you are the best fighter in the division. take baldomir for example. he was lineal champ but far from the best fighter in the division. did anyone consider zsolt erdei the best fighter at light heavyweight? hell no was a bum like baldomir. right now the best fighter at welterweight is pacquiao not mosley and is floyd fighting him? nope. he still hasn't fought the best since castillo in 2002.

    so aside from everything you did quite well. good luck on future posts!

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    • HandSpeed303
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      #12
      Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
      ROFL...

      Pac vs Diaz at 135?
      Pac vs Hatton at 140 after being knocked out? Wasn't Bradley the top guy at 140?Mosley was lineal 147 champ and Mayweather beat him

      So I guess Pac isn't an ATG. Atleast Mayweather has fought most of the top guys in his divisions while moving up. I think he was the lineal champ in all the divisions he won titles in. Pac hasn't since 130 and the Marquez win is disputable...
      At the time Pac beat Hatton, Hatton was the top guy at 140...You know that though.

      Bradley didn't earn that title till a few fights later. Manny had bigger fish to fry by then.
      Last edited by HandSpeed303; 07-14-2010, 02:53 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by daggum
        so many things wrong dear lord. good try though?

        bradley wasn't the top guy till after hatton got knocked out by pac. did you think gatti vs mayweather was for the lineal championship of 140 and delahoya vs mayweather was for the lineal championship at 154? wrong.

        and being lineal champ doesn't mean you are the best fighter in the division. take baldomir for example. he was lineal champ but far from the best fighter in the division. did anyone consider zsolt erdei the best fighter at light heavyweight? hell no was a bum like baldomir. right now the best fighter at welterweight is pacquiao not mosley and is floyd fighting him? nope. he still hasn't fought the best since castillo in 2002.

        so aside from everything you did quite well. good luck on future posts!
        Nice post. I think you just owned the saddo big time.

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        • southcentralcar
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          #14
          Originally posted by carts
          wtf? floyd fought 40+ fights and never asked fr OST so u think he never ever thought he was cheated?
          this fight would be huge. plus pacquiao is very su****ious. you gotta admit team pacquiao were drama queens they made these tests look like something horrible.

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          • southcentralcar
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            #15
            Originally posted by Sgt Rock
            Nice post. I think you just owned the saddo big time.


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            • carts
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              #16
              Originally posted by southcentralcar
              this fight would be huge. plus pacquiao is very su****ious. you gotta admit team pacquiao were drama queens they made these tests look like something horrible.
              *****s said floyds resume is the greatest! he fought the BEST!!! but he didnt asked for OST's in those Fights.. again *****s said pac's resume is shiet.. he fought drained boxers and bums... but floyd asked for OST??? i think there is something wrong here....

              if you think youll fight a BUM why would you ask for OST? he doesnt need to cheat cuz he just fought BUMS and cherry picked his opponents...

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                #17
                Last edited by Cherry Picker; 07-14-2010, 03:06 AM.

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                • Fists_of_Fury
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  so many things wrong dear lord. good try though?

                  bradley wasn't the top guy till after hatton got knocked out by pac. did you think gatti vs mayweather was for the lineal championship of 140 and delahoya vs mayweather was for the lineal championship at 154? wrong.

                  and being lineal champ doesn't mean you are the best fighter in the division. take baldomir for example. he was lineal champ but far from the best fighter in the division. did anyone consider zsolt erdei the best fighter at light heavyweight? hell no was a bum like baldomir. right now the best fighter at welterweight is pacquiao not mosley and is floyd fighting him? nope. he still hasn't fought the best since castillo in 2002.

                  so aside from everything you did quite well. good luck on future posts!
                  Doesn't explain 135lb class. I forgot that Hatton was still the 140lb guy since he got knocked out at welterweight by Mayweather. But Pac isn't the guy at welter weight. He only fought one time at the limit. Mosley was the #1 welter weight and Floyd beat him making Floyd the #1 welter. And I said that he fought most of the best guys in the divisions... I guess Tszyu was the guy at 140 at the time. But thats still only 1 class Floyd didn't clear the top guy. Pac has two since he's not the #1 welter. He has to beat Floyd. Hopefully it'll get inked

                  And ty and good luck to you. You fix my post... I go back and fix both yours and mine.

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                  • southcentralcar
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by carts
                    *****s said floyds resume is the greatest! he fought the BEST!!! but he didnt asked for OST's in those Fights.. again *****s said pac's resume is shiet.. he fought drained boxers and bums... but floyd asked for OST??? i think there is something wrong here....

                    if you think youll fight a BUM why would you ask for OST? he doesnt need to cheat cuz he just fought BUMS and cherry picked his opponents...
                    no one says that pac is a bum. he's a good fighter just that we dont know wether he's natural or not. why all the drama about simple tests ?

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                    • Fists_of_Fury
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by southcentralcar


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