Prime Mosley Vs Prime Hearns @ 147

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    #11
    Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
    Hearns was knocked out in both of his greatest fights... Mosley Prime would be another one of those. Mosley has an iron chin and has great power himself with speed. It could work out like Mosley vs Forrest but I think it would work out like Leonard vs Hearns. With Shane being a better finisher in his prime imo.
    I doubt Mosley would be able to adjust like Leonard was. Leonard showed the ability to make great adjustments between fights and during fights to deal with an assortment of styles against excellent fighters while Mosley hasn't shown this type of ability to adapt. Leonard also hits harder than Mosley, his left hook did more damage than anything in Mosley's arsenal and Leonard also showed he could crack at higher weights. Despite being a very good finisher, it's also highly, highly questionable that Shane was a better or equal finisher as Leonard.

    Very few fighters could finish like Leonard could.

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      #12
      Originally posted by PED User
      I doubt Mosley would be able to adjust like Leonard was. Leonard showed the ability to make great adjustments between fights and during fights to deal with an assortment of styles against excellent fighters while Mosley hasn't shown this type of ability to adapt. Leonard also hits harder than Mosley, his left hook did more damage than anything in Mosley's arsenal and Leonard also showed he could crack at higher weights. Despite being a very good finisher, it's also highly, highly questionable that Shane was a better or equal finisher as Leonard.

      Very few fighters could finish like Leonard could.
      I always felt Mosley was the better puncher at 147, don't know why.

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        #13
        Who did Hearns beat at WW???

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          #14
          I think Hearns would win a Decision. It would be like the Forrest fight minus the KD (which I think was due to the headbutt then the uppercut) I don't think Hearns would stop him not a prime Mosley.

          Hearns had huge power but Mosley chin is ridiculous it was the only thing keeping him upright against Forrest and Mayweather and some of the left hooks Oscar landed were beastly.

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            #15
            Originally posted by PED User
            I doubt Mosley would be able to adjust like Leonard was. Leonard showed the ability to make great adjustments between fights and during fights to deal with an assortment of styles against excellent fighters while Mosley hasn't shown this type of ability to adapt. Leonard also hits harder than Mosley, his left hook did more damage than anything in Mosley's arsenal and Leonard also showed he could crack at higher weights. Despite being a very good finisher, it's also highly, highly questionable that Shane was a better or equal finisher as Leonard.

            Very few fighters could finish like Leonard could.
            I don't believe Leonard hit harder than Shane. Leonard was more skilled but a heavy puncher he was not. Shane now is a brawler with fast hands not like his LW days he has one punch KO power. I don't think Leonard ever had that, it was his combainations that did the damage. He might be a better finisher but Shane packs one punch KO power at 147/

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              #16
              i'd pick mosley by ko while behind on the cards, sugar shane was fast as ****, and you gotta have a chin because your gonna get hit

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                #17
                Originally posted by Ryn0
                I don't believe Leonard hit harder than Shane. Leonard was more skilled but a heavy puncher he was not. Shane now is a brawler with fast hands not like his LW days he has one punch KO power. I don't think Leonard ever had that, it was his combainations that did the damage. He might be a better finisher but Shane packs one punch KO power at 147/
                I never really saw Mosley as a one-shot guy. Even at 135, most of his opponents were stopped through a lot of punishment, especially to the body. At 147, he stopped the overmatched Stone with a couple big shots, but that's the only time I saw him showing real one shot power, except for maybe Mayorga who I think was also tired and took some big, big shots in the mid rounds as well. Rivera almost went the distance and took a lot of shots, Wise got his ass kicked for 3 rounds until it was stopped, Diaz got his ass kicked and took a beating until it was stopped in the mid rounds, Taylor took an ass kicking for 5 rounds and the only time he was really hurt was the body shot (it was a flash KD in round 1 IMO). These were mostly accumulation stoppages. Other guys like Cruz, Collazo, and Estrada went the distance and the only time I remember any of them hurt was Estrada on a body shot. Mosley stunned Cotto, but many guys stun Cotto.

                Whereas Leonard turned the whole momentum of the Hearns fight with one big left hook in the 6th. He turned it back around in the 13th with one big right hand. He knocked Green unconscious. He knocked Price out in one, and showed the ability to badly hurt other guys with a shot or 2. It's been awhile since I saw the Kalule fight so my memory may be off on this one, but I don't remember Kalule taking a sustained beating. Another fight @ 154, the Howard fight, Leonard really did a ton of damage with one left hook. Leonard's power was key there. Ray greatly shifted the momentum of the Lalonde fight, and this was well above 147 or 154, with one right hand. That right hand hurt Lalonde and Ray just ****ed him up with the follow-up finish.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Cashis Clay
                  i'd pick mosley by ko while behind on the cards, sugar shane was fast as ****, and you gotta have a chin because your gonna get hit
                  He was staggered by Vernon's jab. And Hearns' jab is much powerful than Vernon's. Hate to admit it but I can see Mosley's leg turn jelly.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PED User
                    I never really saw Mosley as a one-shot guy. Even at 135, most of his opponents were stopped through a lot of punishment, especially to the body. At 147, he stopped the overmatched Stone with a couple big shots, but that's the only time I saw him showing real one shot power, except for maybe Mayorga who I think was also tired and took some big, big shots in the mid rounds as well. Rivera almost went the distance and took a lot of shots, Wise got his ass kicked for 3 rounds until it was stopped, Diaz got his ass kicked and took a beating until it was stopped in the mid rounds, Taylor took an ass kicking for 5 rounds and the only time he was really hurt was the body shot (it was a flash KD in round 1 IMO). These were mostly accumulation stoppages. Other guys like Cruz, Collazo, and Estrada went the distance and the only time I remember any of them hurt was Estrada on a body shot. Mosley stunned Cotto, but many guys stun Cotto.

                    Whereas Leonard turned the whole momentum of the Hearns fight with one big left hook in the 6th. He turned it back around in the 13th with one big right hand. He knocked Green unconscious. He knocked Price out in one, and showed the ability to badly hurt other guys with a shot or 2. It's been awhile since I saw the Kalule fight so my memory may be off on this one, but I don't remember Kalule taking a sustained beating. Another fight @ 154, the Howard fight, Leonard really did a ton of damage with one left hook. Leonard's power was key there. Ray greatly shifted the momentum of the Lalonde fight, and this was well above 147 or 154, with one right hand. That right hand hurt Lalonde and Ray just ****ed him up with the follow-up finish.
                    Mosley hurt Collazo with a left hook, knocked out Mayorga with one punch, knocked out Vargas with a left hook.

                    At 135 he was a different beast, but he has ALOT of one punch KO's! He was a fast, combination puncher, he carried that up against Oscar watch the Mosley-Oscar fight and you'll notice Mosley is moving backward alot of the time, something he doesn't do often nowdays unless he being beaten to a pulp ala Mayweather

                    Leonard had power don't get me wrong but I don't believe he had Mosley's power, he changed the dynamic of the Hearns fight but Hearns was still up on the cards and lets not forget that Hearns didn't have the best chin in the world. Mosley also managed to get one punch KO's at 154 after starting out at 135. Leonard carried his power up to an extent like in the Lalonde fight but Lalonde had to weigh in at 168 when he fought at 175 for a number of fights before the Leonard fight so that Sugar Ray could win Lalonde belt at 175 and the vacant belt at 168.

                    I think Leonard's power is much like Pacquiao's it was a combination of speed, angles, volume and footwork. Mosleys is more blunting one punch power.

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