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  • Pwill ducking Maravilla .He has unfinished business .IMO.

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    • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
      I know your a Pacboy and every little thing he does counts for you. You say your a boxing fan but I beg to differ cause your definitely a *******.
      I know you wanna use Michael whatever his name was as a legitimate win but Cotto still to this day is not the same after the Judah, Mosley, Cheato and Clottey wars he was in before they threw him a stiff. Even Freddy Roach is on record saying Hatton was done in by PBF (your view against Roach's) Do you think half of an Oscar would struggle with Stevie Forbes and remember he was beat at his own game before that by PBF and Diaz was KO'd by Kendall Holt and was involved in several life or death battles with a bunch of gasoline attendants before facing Pac get my drift. None were a Bradley or a Alexander even. Pwillz may not be undefeated but he's a winner and I think he has a little wear and tear on him personally so why not fight him.
      I am just hearing a bunch of excuses after I shot your whole argument down.

      He beat Clottey after Jennings. Now is not the he was coming off a lost but it is about wars?

      Hatton was coming off a win against a top 10 guy.

      Oscar won 11-12 rounds against Steve Forbes. However, Forbes was out of his weight-class feather fisted and still busted Oscar up. But, that Oscar was done. But, Oscar was done against Floyd also.... Oscar been done. However, that was not the point. The point was that he was not coming of a lost like you proclaimed.

      David Diaz got KO'd by Holt at 140. Not at 135. Diaz KO'd Santa Cruz at 135, who got robbed against Casamayor. So..........

      Yes I am a "*******" Good observation. And, I might not be a boxing fan and just a ****** "*******". But, you still not winning this argument against a ****** "*******"

      You saying Pac only fights fighters with wear and tear. You you want him to fight P-Will who admit of having some wear and tear. That sounds like a contradiction to me...

      And, if Pac wins that is the excuse now right? P-Will had wear and tear? That he was not the same after the war with Martinez? Nor the lost to Quintana? Plus he was weight-drain, and didn't look all that against Cintron... And, blah blah blah....

      Yea man I get it....

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      • This fight will never happen. I would much rather see P-Will fight Floyd Jr. I think Floyd Jr. would counter P-Will to death since P-Will throws wildly alot and misses. But I think it would be competitive for a while, but if Quintana can counter him, Floyd Jr. would make him look silly....

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        • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
          I know your a Pacboy and every little thing he does counts for you. You say your a boxing fan but I beg to differ cause your definitely a *******.
          I know you wanna use Michael whatever his name was as a legitimate win but Cotto still to this day is not the same after the Judah, Mosley, Cheato and Clottey wars he was in before they threw him a stiff. Even Freddy Roach is on record saying Hatton was done in by PBF (your view against Roach's) Do you think half of an Oscar would struggle with Stevie Forbes and remember he was beat at his own game before that by PBF and Diaz was KO'd by Kendall Holt and was involved in several life or death battles with a bunch of gasoline attendants before facing Pac get my drift. None were a Bradley or a Alexander even. Pwillz may not be undefeated but he's a winner and I think he has a little wear and tear on him personally so why not fight him.
          PWill is not a draw... I don't want to even see you say Manny is ducking because he is too tall. The real reason is because Williams has about 5 people that know about him and he has no fight to really give him at least notice among casual fans. The best you can say is... he had a close fight with Sergio Martinez who isn't much of a name yet either, but at least he can say he beat Pavlik. Williams has no name recognition on his name other than maybe Margarito who ain't **** in the first place. The fact is the fight won't happen because Williams is WAY TOO TALL and not nearly worth the risk.

          If Williams was as big a name as Mayweather, Cotto or Mosley then I would agree he should fight him should he make the weight. All Manny is doing is the same as Mayweather, the fight has to make sense and it simply doesn't for Manny. Beat up a guy moving to a division he hasn't fought in 3 or 4 fights in which his last one he was losing till his opponent dove out of the ring. Seriously, Williams is a nobody and he isn't even that good or he wouldn't struggle with Quintana's or Cintron's.

          I don't want to see Cotto/Pacquiao 2, at least not yet but the fight makes some sense. As much as the weight WASN'T an issue they could use that as a marketing ploy. Cotto was weight drained but now they are fighting at Jr. MW, granted it would be a catch weight but that would conveniently would be left out. Cotto is looking for revenge without draining him and Manny is going for a record 8th division title. What's the best way to market Williams? 6 foot 3 MW, has challenged a man 7 inches shorter and 20 pounds lighter for a fight, but only draws 300 fans. If you try to argue as a Floyd fan you are simply a total idiot, because its what Floyd is all about.
          Last edited by Beater_of_ass; 07-11-2010, 02:04 PM.

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          • Pac wont fight this man . Pac only fights old or washed up fighters thats a fact

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            • P Williams can fight in whatever division he wants. Nobody can say he has to fight in the higher divisions only. If Williams can make the 147 weight then he qualifies.

              Williams knows that the Martinez fight can happen later (6 months later?) so he wants to take this opportunity to go for Manny or Floyd. Nothing wrong there.


              As for the fight actually happening. I doubt it would.

              I can see Williams vs Floyd happening (higher probability) than Williams vs Manny...... but I wouldn't mind seeing either one.

              If Team Pac thinks they can beat Williams then this fight can happen. It would be great for his legacy .... but there is still the fact that he can get another title with Cotto and that may stand out more in the long run.

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              • Oh and one final thing, they couldn't even make Williams/Pavlik because Williams somehow thought that he deserved 50% of the share. What he is going to demand for Manny 40%? Be real, no one can do business with Arum other than Arum himself its never going to happen.

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                • Originally posted by wengz2002 View Post
                  It's not the height why PacMan didn't fight Foreman...
                  As we know PacMan is a religious man... He just don't want to administer a beating to an aspiring Priest (Rabbi)!!!
                  No,it was his height.Manny turned down the fight because in his words "Yuri was too tall".

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                  • Its going to look like juamma vs conception. but id give pac maybe 5 rounds. The winner of this fight should get Mayweather. Or Floyd vs Pwill and the winner vs Pacman.

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                    • Originally posted by boxasmash View Post
                      Got to be a joke, Pacquiao wont even be able to hit him in the face.

                      Will be like Valuev vs Haye in height difference.
                      just as bad as an NBA guard fighting an NBA center...ridiculous. as far as PWilliams natural weight, it aint 147. if he's been fighting at 160 for a while now, no h.e.l.l is he a natural 147

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