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Last edited by Lacrimosa; 07-10-2010, 01:59 PM. -
Why can't Wladimir be like a normal dominant champion and underestimate an opponent once in a while?
Povetkin is the wrong type of fighter to underestimate though. Swarmers of his caliber will break you down if you're not prepared. A prepared Klitschko will keep him at a distance and jab until he's able to drop the right hand.
Povetkin will have to be able to get inside and it'll have to be with and without taking damage. And let his hands go without letting Wladimir lean on or tie him up. If he can take the momentum away from Wlad and not get hurt afterward, he can get a KO, easier said than done though. As of right now, I got Klitschko KO11.Comment
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Yeah, good luck doing that. The only way to take Wlad's jab from him is to outjab him yourself, or punish him every time he throws it with hard counter shots. Pov doesn't have the jab or the reach to do the former, and doesn't possess the power or head movement to do the latter. E's proper fooked like.
Yeah Povs could possibly clip him here and there, but really people seem to driven it into their skulls that Wlad's chin is so fragile that he'll crumble from a stiff breeze or one of David Haye's farts. As his last few fights have shown this isn't the case. Brewster caught him pretty good in their second fight, Thompson got through with more than a few good shots, as did Chambers. Result? Nothing, and they all got stopped. Povs doesn't punch any harder than these guys and will be eating a hell of a lot of leather in his quest to get inside. Believe me this fight won't be competitive and (alas) probably won't be exciting either.Comment
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With the current Wlad this is almost impossible to do. He's got the art of clinching down to a science. This is part of the reason why I value him so much in H2H fantasy matchups with smaller opponents, especially inside fighters like Frazier and Louis. He negates any inside work completely with that limpet-like clinch which takes away massively from a smaller fighter's game. Actually it'll be interesting for me to see how Povetkin, who reminds me a little stylistically of Louis, does in this particular fight. My guess is Wlad's stifling clinch will not allow Povs to get into his comfort zone, forcing him to fight on the outside where he'll be picked apart.Comment
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Here's Povs against an opponent who clinches him every time he gets near. See how frustrated and nullified Povs work is by the simple clinches of this low-level journeyman fighter?
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Will be a GREAT EVENT!
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Povetkin is a worthy opponent, but not a threatening one. Nobody is beating Wlad without knocking him out, and Povetkin don't have the power to make that happen. Wlad will keep him outside and pick him apart until he falls like everyone else. Maybe the rage he feels toward Haye will actually make him fight more aggressively and tear into Povetkin. I doubt it makes him lackadaisical in in his preparation. Either way, I see Povetkin getting KO'd.Comment
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Oh I know, I was just giving the format to what Povetkin has to do if he's going to win, not that he would be able to. Good observation nonetheless.
The actual keys to beating the current Wlad is constant lateral movement while keeping the fight in the center of the ring and shooting straight shots to the body and finish up top.
I know Wlad's leaning and holding looks like an almost unsolvable puzzle, but it's not impossible. I have seen him actually put someone in a type of reverse cobra clutch where he locks in the back of the neck and an arm, which is impossible to actually do anything in and is illegal. He can't do it all the time though and he won't be able to hold if his opponent doesn't want him to. They'll have to have incredible stamina to actually do it multiple times during the course of the fight.
No sure if there's been enough time between the Sykes fight and getting together with Atlas to change that. Either way, it's gonna be an uphill battle for Povetkin to beat Wlad at this point.Comment
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I agree with this. Something like a heavyweight Pac or Sergio Martinez, if ever a guy like that comes along. Either that or an extremely athletic big man with great power and a solid chin. Thompson as I mentioned earlier was getting through with a few good shots of his own, but simply wasn't strong enough to even hurt Wlad. Interesting you mention the straight to the body. Very few opponents of Wlad's have ever really seriously gone for the body, but it's about the only target you can reliably get to whilst fighting him on the outside. His height, coupled with his punch anticipation and lean-back defensive style makes it really difficult to get in with a clean head shot, especially when you're a shorter man. Povetkin's got a decent body attack, but again he likes to be in close to throw it, and that means being within clinching range. I don't think I've ever seen him throw a straight right from the outside.
Sure Wlad's beatable, as is anyone really. Just really really hard to beat. As for opponents who manhandled Wlad in the clinch, the only one I can think of is Samuel Peter, who's built like a refrigerator. The only other fighters who might be able to do that would be Tua and possibly Solis (just going on appearances there though). Everyone else can forget it. From what I hear, and from what I see on film, Wlad is extremely physically strong in the clinch. This, coupled with his height and 240lb wearing down on you, must be absolutely draining to any opponent. Even Chambers, who got cute a few times in the early rounds, eventually succumbed.Comment
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That would suck massively for Povs if that came to pass. Though after all the nonsense Atlas has been spewing about Wlad as well as the constant put-offs Povs' camp have been doing for nigh on two years, I wouldn't blame him.
Would also make for a much better fight. Aggressive Wlad equals exciting Wlad.Comment
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