Who is the best SMW in the world?

[SplitSecond]

I have to disagree that Dirrell would outbox him... styles make fights.

what do you know about styles?
ward has more of a chance being stopped by a bodyshot against bute than dirrell would

[Tampatrader0468]

what do you know about styles?
ward has more of a chance being stopped by a bodyshot against bute than dirrell would

What do I know about styles? Give me a less broad question because I know quite a bit more about styles than you might think. I watch tons of boxing and study film and bet on sports on the side ya dig. Don't discredit me. Bute in my mind would get decisioned by Ward. I think everyone else he would be successful against. I never discredited Dirrell I just personally think Bute would beat him... He is a very versatile fighter with a motor. My problem with Dirrell is... How does he fight when he is down on the cards. Once he gets a lead he is a tremendously hard fighter to try and beat. If he is down I think he lacks the heart or the skills to come back against top level competition.

[Toda Caine]

Bute's style and level is misleading. He's defeated nothing more than C list opponents.

[Legendary Hater]

Has to be between Ward, Bute and Kessler...

lol...this guy...****in' RUINED...lol


I will now grade the seven relevant fighters at 168...this is in an overall P4P sense...this...is where they truly stand.

Ward A-

Dirrell B+

Bute B

Abraham B-

Froch, Kessler, and Green C+


In regards to Froch-Kessler...that fight was an absolute CLUSTER****...the lack of skills and accuracy was so horrendous that it was outright painful to watch...

Seriously...and I'm borrowing this line from an old friend..."If I saw those two fighting outside my window, I would close the blinds and call the cops.".

[Toda Caine]

Froch, Kessler C+

In regards to the last 2 names...that fight was an absolute CLUSTER****...the lack of skills and accuracy was so horrendous that it was outright painful to watch...
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I thought I was the only one that noticed that. Everyone claimed it was such a great fight. It was overrated around here.

[baracuda]

none in the super six is the best....bute is the best.....ward= overrated headbutter, elbower and a clincher....dirrel= quitter...froch= less skilled smw green= waste of time..kessler= not great.....AA is the best in the super 6

[Legendary Hater]

I thought I was the only one that noticed that. Everyone claimed it was such a great fight. It was overrated around here.

lol...ofcourse it was...I bet some of 'em were throwin' out "FOTY" claims as well...


I'm sure you already know this, Toda...but there's a ton of garbage fans out there in these forums...and many of them are upset a young American (Ward) is makin' their precious, traditionally pathetic, Eurobum filled division his *****...

These types will say whatever they can, however ludicrous it may be, to try to take away from that fact...

Nothing but pathetic, amateur Hate...


Anyway...good to see someone else recognized the lack of quality in that bout...

[Tampatrader0468]

Bute's style and level is misleading. He's defeated nothing more than C list opponents.

I'll give you that one... I also think ward is misleading. I know I know... he did beat Kessler, and destroyed green, but I still want to wait and use digression until he faces a very slick fighter like dirrell. I can't wait to be honest, the super six is saving boxing in my mind.

[Tampatrader0468]

lol...ofcourse it was...I bet some of 'em were throwin' out "FOTY" claims as well...


I'm sure you already know this, Toda...but there's a ton of garbage fans out there in these forums...and many of them are upset a young American (Ward) is makin' their precious, traditionally pathetic, Eurobum filled division his *****...

These types will say whatever they can, however ludicrous it may be, to try to take away from that fact...

Nothing but pathetic, amateur Hate...


Anyway...good to see someone else recognized the lack of quality in that bout...

I was with you guys... I thought the only thing to say was damn Froch can take punishment, lol. I thought Froch was gonna get knocked out to be honest, but it proved to be about what i thought ultimately...

[Sweet Jesus]

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