Comments Thread For: Team Pacquiao Admit: Mayweather Deal Not Difficult

[IMDAZED]

But he did sell 1 mil. With ODLH and Cotto.

Both Manny and Floyd became ppv stars due to ODLH.

If you want a true representation of what each fighter brings you also have to factor in their drawing power prior to ODLH.


Mayweather/Baldomir 325,000

The fight, which cost $49.95, generated $16.3 million in television revenue, but was the weakest performing of the three cards Mayweather has headlined on HBO PPV.

Both of his previous HBO PPV fights, which cost $44.95, did more business.

Mayweather/Judah 374,000 buys and $16.8 million in revenue and his June Mayweather/Gatti 365,000 buys and $16.5 million.

Pacquiao/Barrera II 350,000
Pacquiao/Morales III 350,000
Pacquiao/Marquez 400,000

Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez registered a record-high pay-per-view buys among the lower weight classes in the history of boxing.

The rematch had 400,000 HBO pay-per-view sales, reaching a sweeping $20.2 million in earnings.

Fairly even IMO.. Shouldn't be an issue seeing as how they will both make BIGGER money with 50/50 than doing 80/20.. with any other fighter.

They are both superstars. Mayweather is bigger. They'll work it out.

[Calilloyd]

One thread you have NEVER seen on BoxingScene since the negotiations started:

"Comments Thread For:Team Mayweather says...."

Thank you......

[The Big Dunn]

But he did sell 1 mil. With ODLH and Cotto.

Both Manny and Floyd became ppv stars due to ODLH.

If you want a true representation of what each fighter brings you also have to factor in their drawing power prior to ODLH.


Mayweather/Baldomir 325,000

The fight, which cost $49.95, generated $16.3 million in television revenue, but was the weakest performing of the three cards Mayweather has headlined on HBO PPV.

Both of his previous HBO PPV fights, which cost $44.95, did more business.

Mayweather/Judah 374,000 buys and $16.8 million in revenue and his June Mayweather/Gatti 365,000 buys and $16.5 million.

Pacquiao/Barrera II 350,000
Pacquiao/Morales III 350,000
Pacquiao/Marquez 400,000

Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez registered a record-high pay-per-view buys among the lower weight classes in the history of boxing.

The rematch had 400,000 HBO pay-per-view sales, reaching a sweeping $20.2 million in earnings.

Fairly even IMO.. Shouldn't be an issue seeing as how they will both make BIGGER money with 50/50 than doing 80/20.. with any other fighter.

Interesting post. I know why you picked these fights But if you want to be true, include all ppv for both and average it out. Where is Hatton for both guys? Oops Iknow floyd sold more.

Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez registered a record-high pay-per-view buys among the lower weight classes in the history of boxing. The rematch had 400,000 HBO pay-per-view sales, reaching a sweeping $20.2 million in earnings.

Lower weight classes. What a high weight class 147? The real low weight class(aka non heavyweight) is floyd odh 2 mil plus. Yes, ODh was the main draw. His next biggest ppv after that, trinidad(both undefeated for undisputed ww title) 1.9 mil.

We are post ODH. So we have to go back more than 5 years instead of using current figures. When you get your taxes done do you use last year or 5 yrs ago. Stop it dude. Manny is the "opponent" and deserves (based solely on numbers) anywhere from 42-47%. He still makes about $11 mil more than his best.

[Calilloyd]

I would still trust people actually involved in the talks as opposed to someone not involved.

I assume that means you trust Leonard Ellerbe who said there are no negotiations. And there is more than one team involved. The problem is only one side has been talking.

[Calilloyd]

Interesting post. I know why you picked these fights But if you want to be true, include all ppv for both and average it out. Where is Hatton for both guys? Oops Iknow floyd sold more.

Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez registered a record-high pay-per-view buys among the lower weight classes in the history of boxing. The rematch had 400,000 HBO pay-per-view sales, reaching a sweeping $20.2 million in earnings.

Lower weight classes. What a high weight class 147? The real low weight class(aka non heavyweight) is floyd odh 2 mil plus. Yes, ODh was the main draw. His next biggest ppv after that, trinidad(both undefeated for undisputed ww title) 1.9 mil.

We are post ODH. So we have to go back more than 5 years instead of using current figures. When you get your taxes done do you use last year or 5 yrs ago. Stop it dude. Manny is the "opponent" and deserves (based solely on numbers) anywhere from 42-47%. He still makes about $11 mil more than his best.

Nice to see some factual information here to counter the spin and fuzzy math.

[| THE KING |]

Interesting post. I know why you picked these fights But if you want to be true, include all ppv for both and average it out. Where is Hatton for both guys? Oops Iknow floyd sold more.

I mentioned in my post that I was factoring in fights PRIOR to ODLH. Before ODLH made manny and floyd superstars.

Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez registered a record-high pay-per-view buys among the lower weight classes in the history of boxing. The rematch had 400,000 HBO pay-per-view sales, reaching a sweeping $20.2 million in earnings.

Lower weight classes. What a high weight class 147? The real low weight class(aka non heavyweight) is floyd odh 2 mil plus. Yes, ODh was the main draw. His next biggest ppv after that, trinidad(both undefeated for undisputed ww title) 1.9 mil.

I'm just bringing in factual statistics bruh. BEFORE ODLH is a pretty good guage of the drawing power of each fighter.

We are post ODH. So we have to go back more than 5 years instead of using current figures. When you get your taxes done do you use last year or 5 yrs ago. Stop it dude. Manny is the "opponent" and deserves (based solely on numbers) anywhere from 42-47%. He still makes about $11 mil more than his best.

Just thought I'd point out some fights prior to ODLH. Stop what? I'm just bringing in factual statistics man. Bottom line... Both mega stars will net each other BIG money. Best business move would be to make the fight.. Seeing as how they will both make BIGGER money with 50/50 than doing 80/20.. with any other fighter.

[hitking]

I can't understand why people are wanting/expecting/demanding that Mayweather agree to terms that aren't fair for him. He is a bigger draw than Pac, point blank. Maybe had Pac fought better competition recently he'd have outdone Mayweather in the PPV department. The fact is, Mayweather has made his comeback against people Pac and his team didn't want to fight. Immediately after Pacquaio-Marquez II, Pacquaio and JMM were the #1 and #2 P4P fighters in the world and a rubber match was the most wanted fight in the hardcore fight community. Instead of fighting JMM for a third time, Pac fought David Diaz. Who's to say Pacquaio-Marquez III wouldn't have done the same 1.1M PPV buys that Mayweather-Marquez did, I think it would have done close. And let's think back to 2009 when Pacquaio-Mosley was the biggest fight that could have been made after Mosley destroyed Margarito, who had stopped Cotto. Yeah, Pacquaio-Cotto did well at the box office. But, I think at the time Pacquaio-Mosley would have done better, and I think it would have probably outdone the 1.4M that Mayweather-Mosley did. I say all that to say that Mayweather has gone out and fought better recent competition than Pac and it has translated into better box office results. Therefore he ought to be rewarded for taking bigger risk and the fights that more people were interested in watching. Had Pac fought JMM for a third time and Mosely, IMO he would be in the driver's seat in negotiations with Money May. But, he chose to fight stablemates and generate the revenue. Now, if he wants Mayweather, its gonna be as the B side of the promotion.

[| THE KING |]

They are both superstars. Mayweather is bigger. They'll work it out.

Yes they will. Too much money on the table not to.

[The Big Dunn]

I mentioned in my post that I was factoring in fights PRIOR to ODLH. Before ODLH made manny and floyd superstars.



I'm just bringing in factual statistics bruh. BEFORE ODLH is a pretty good guage of the drawing power of each fighter.




Just thought I'd point out some fights prior to ODLH. Stop what? I'm just bringing in factual statistics man. Bottom line... Both mega stars will net each other BIG money. Best business move would be to make the fight.. Seeing as how they will both make BIGGER money with 50/50 than doing 80/20.. with any other fighter.

Respectfully, its a good gauge of their drawing power to see who draws more at the same time. Their drawing power now is THEIR drawing power. I respect your points but their is no way using the numbers that manny or bob can legitmately ask for 50/50.

Now if the point is well floyd can't make $50 mil without Manny thats true. But manny can't make $25 mil without floyd. Floyd can make $25 mil without manny.

[maguirre]

I assume that means you trust Leonard Ellerbe who said there are no negotiations. And there is more than one team involved. The problem is only one side has been talking.

It also means that only one party is interested in the fight. Otherwise, this secrecy crap doesn't have to happen. This display or reluctance is all about FEAR. Fear of losing.