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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    At 135? I mean only one fight showed true dominance and that was against Phillip Ndou who wasn't even ranked in the top 10 at 135. And, I wouldn't consider Stevie Johnston as being scared of Floyd.
    He did struggle with Sosa, and JLC did give him a hard time in the rematch. Personally, Mayweather was a better Jr WW then he was a LW. He became more experienced on the inside, a lot stronger too. Just got more physical with his opponents.

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      #42
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      At 135? I mean only one fight showed true dominance and that was against Phillip Ndou who wasn't even ranked in the top 10 at 135. And, I wouldn't consider Stevie Johnston as being scared of Floyd.
      lol, did u 4get jlc. sure he looked bad in the 1st fight, but he still proved he was the dominant force in that division. and i remember u bringing up johnston and spodafora in the past, but lets not act like castillo wasnt above johnston.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
        He did struggle with Sosa, and JLC did give him a hard time in the rematch. Personally, Mayweather was a better Jr WW then he was a LW. He became more experienced on the inside, a lot stronger too. Just got more physical with his opponents.
        I agree that he was more dominant at 140 than 135. Also maybe cuz he fought tougher guys at 135?

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          #44
          Originally posted by DempseyRollin
          lol, did u 4get jlc. sure he looked bad in the 1st fight, but he still proved he was the dominant force in that division. and i remember u bringing up johnston and spodafora in the past, but lets not act like castillo wasnt above johnston.
          Did you forget the Castillo rematch is the question.

          Yes Floyd clearly won the rematch. But, it wasn't a dominant performance ala Corralaes, Shane, or even Oscar. Even though he clearly won with no questions asked and put all doubts to rest. It was still one of his toughest fights of his career.

          Yes Castillo holds a draw and a close win over Johnston. I personally scored both fights for Johnston. But, it was close not a robbery Castillo got the decision so is all good.

          However, Johnston is a way different fighter than Castillo. Different style. Fact is, Johnston was skilled and a top rated fighter. Who was willing to fight Floyd. And, I will say at 135 Johnston was better than Augustus/Burton, Sosa, and Ndou. And, again was willing to fight Floyd. So I wouldn't say Floyd put fear in people at 135 as you tried to insinuate. Maybe at 130 and 140 but not at 135.

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            #45
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            I agree that he was more dominant at 140 than 135. Also maybe cuz he fought tougher guys at 135?
            Meh, I don't know. Sosa and JLC were able to outmuscle him. That could have been due to size, or maybe the level of opposition. Just that when he moved up to 140, he packed on a lot of muscle and got way more physical with his opponents. I don't think Castillo could have bullied Mayweather at 140, the way he did at 135. I see Mayweather standing his ground.

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              #46
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Did you forget the Castillo rematch is the question.

              Yes Floyd clearly won the rematch. But, it wasn't a dominant performance ala Corralaes, Shane, or even Oscar. Even though he clearly won with no questions asked and put all doubts to rest. It was still one of his toughest fights of his career.

              Yes Castillo holds a draw and a close win over Johnston. I personally scored both fights for Johnston. But, it was close not a robbery Castillo got the decision so is all good.

              However, Johnston is a way different fighter than Castillo. Different style. Fact is, Johnston was skilled and a top rated fighter. Who was willing to fight Floyd. And, I will say at 135 Johnston was better than Augustus/Burton, Sosa, and Ndou. And, again was willing to fight Floyd. So I wouldn't say Floyd put fear in people at 135 as you tried to insinuate. Maybe at 130 and 140 but not at 135.
              He was feared at 147 when he first came not because of what he did at 47 just being an amazing talent.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                Meh, I don't know. Sosa and JLC were able to outmuscle him. That could have been due to size, or maybe the level of opposition. Just that when he moved up to 140, he packed on a lot of muscle and got way more physical with his opponents. I don't think Castillo could have bullied Mayweather at 140, the way he did at 135. I see Mayweather standing his ground.
                I can just about remember watching this fight when i was around 9 and that is the only time I watched it but i could've sworn he had trouble with sosas speed not his strength?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  It was after Corrales.

                  The Gatti fight was at 140 and in 2006. Hamed was done and around 200 pound during that time.

                  OH OK I knew it was after one of those fights

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by rubensonnny
                    I can just about remember watching this fight when i was around 9 and that is the only time I watched it but i could've sworn he had trouble with sosas speed not his strength?
                    It had a lot to do with both. Although Sosa wasn't in Mayweather's level, Sosa really did come with it. Just one of those cases.

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