How Many Pacman Fans Have Actually Changed Their Minds About Floyd...?

[jrosales13]

when did mosley's prime end??

I say around 2003-2004

Even in the Oscar rematch he was unable to put punches together...

However, even a passed prime Shane was still a top fighter. And, a 38yr old Shane was an elite WW fighter... lineal champ and arguably the best in the division that held Floyd and Pac at the time. So all credit to Floyd for that win.

[Left Hook Tua]

when did mosley's prime end??

probably around the time of the delahoya rematch.

he was downhill since then.

still good though.

[Left Hook Tua]

I say around 2003-2004

Even in the Oscar rematch he was unable to put punches together...

However, even a passed prime Shane was still a top fighter. And, a 38yr old Shane was an elite WW fighter... lineal champ and arguably the best in the division that held Floyd and Pac at the time. So all credit to Floyd for that win.

the rematch is when you can tell oscar and him were on the downhill.

shane and oscar in the rematch just wasn't as sharp and good as they were in the 1st fight.

[Guest]

probably around the time of the delahoya rematch.

he was downhill since then.

still good though.

I remember him struggling with David Estrada then he had a minor resurgence, fought Mayorga like crap and got a last second ko.

Shane has been up and down for at least 5 years now.

He used to be much more consistent.

[HandSpeed303]

when did mosley's prime end??

The minute he got off that stuff (he was never the same)...Now I take nothing from Floyd Check, you know that.

You also know Mosley was not prime. Still a good fighter, able to win by impressive fashion (against the right style, Margo for example)...

Most Floyd fans would say (in regaurds to Mosley beating Floyd), the same Shane that went life and death with Mayorga??? Then when Floyd beat him, he was back to being special.

Floyd desposed of one of his "Boogymen" in Shane, that doesn't change the fact that he was out of his prime...

[Left Hook Tua]

I remember him struggling with David Estrada then he had a minor resurgence, fought Mayorga like crap and got a last second ko.

Shane has been up and down for at least 5 years now.

He used to be much more consistent.

in his defense he was old.

you know old fighters are up and down.

sometimes they look shot and then next fight they look like they're 20 again.

look at bhop's fights. so up and down too.



you rooting for spain?

wanna bet spain vs. holland?

[jrosales13]

the rematch is when you can tell oscar and him were on the downhill.

shane and oscar in the rematch just wasn't as sharp and good as they were in the 1st fight.

Yea I can agree with that...

That is the last time I felt Oscar was a real fighter. That was last time I felt that Oscar really wanted to win a fight.

After that fight IMO had nothing left. Stop being a real fighter, became a part time fighter, full time promoter. Didn't want to train hard anymore, didn't have the heart or love for it anymore. And, the fights after that he didn't care if he won or lost anymore IMO. It was all about the paper after that. Oscar was just basically DONE as a fighter after that fight.

And, yea you could tell Shane was going downhill in that fight. That was not a prime Shane. Anybody who has seen Shane throughout the years knew that.

[MindBat]

me.

i was okay with him until about 3 years ago.

that's when he showed his true colors as being one of the biggest bitches ever in boxing.

He's currently at the top of the rankings and the biggest draw too. He must've been doing something right.

actually, I aint a fan but they said floyd was too scared to fight a prime mosley, and they were proved right.

They said he was too scared to fight any fighters in their prime at their natural weight, hatton, oscar, marquez, mosley and so on, again proved correct.

They said floyd avoids the fights at 147 their natural weight who are in their prime, again proved correct with margo, cotto, mosley and now pac.

We all don't know what really goes on behind the scenes. Perhaps it has more to do with managers protecting some of the fighters against Floyd?

I was ok until the marquez fight, i always had my doubts about him ducking the best and cherry picking but that fight ruined him

Oh, so it would've been OK if he picked on a tomato can straight out of retirement, like like some fighters do? After almost a two year lay-off?

I am impressed with Floyd's speed and power at the negotiating table.

He's so good the fight people want doesn't even get made because of it.

What a defensive genius!

He can also fight.

So Floyd ducked Hatton and Oscar........jesus christ almighty you are a rabid nuthugger

That's what I'm talking about.

[Left Hook Tua]

Yea I can agree with that...

That is the last time I felt Oscar was a real fighter. That was last time I felt that Oscar really wanted to win a fight.

After that fight IMO had nothing left. Stop being a real fighter, became a part time fighter, full time promoter. Didn't want to train hard anymore, didn't have the heart or love for it anymore. And, the fights after that he didn't care if he won or lost anymore IMO. It was all about the paper after that. Oscar was just basically DONE as a fighter after that fight.

And, yea you could tell Shane was going downhill in that fight. That was not a prime Shane. Anybody who has seen Shane throughout the years knew that.

he didn't look too bad against hopkins (then again hopkins was in cruise control)

he looked sharp at the start of the mayorga fight but that just could be mayorga's sloppy ass being so open.

[Guest]

in his defense he was old.

you know old fighters are up and down.

sometimes they look shot and then next fight they look like they're 20 again.

look at bhop's fights. so up and down too.



you rooting for spain?

wanna bet spain vs. holland?

If Spain gets past Germany, we're on!

I think the orange will win their game.