My top ten p4p

[JK1700]

Really? Hmm....

"Haye is a glass chinned fraud with tons of flaws and weaknesses. He has ****ty defence, keeps his left hand too low, is too susceptible to jabs and right hands, he has awful stamina, very low workrate, his technique sucks, he throws wide looping amatuerish punches, and he has no heart, no balls and a glass chin."

That does not sound like a decent fighter to me at all....

So I ask why would you give the K bros credit for beating a glassed chin fraud, with ****ty defense, awful stamina, low work rate, no technique, amateurish, with no heart and no balls.

The K bros should not get credit for a win against a fighter like that.

Yes of course.

I was just pointing out Haye's flaws and weaknesses in that post.

Haye is not a bum, he's a decent fighter, but he's also a scared coward. He is nowhere near the Klitschko Brothers level and he knows it.

Come on Steelhammer. Don't backtrack on your post.

I guess it says alot about the Heavyweight division that the glass chinned fraud with no balls and no heart is the best guy for Wladimir to fight.

[MARKBNLV]

Yours.....

Thanks buddy it took some thinking,there were a few spots where it was tough to pick.

[JK1700]

Even if the division is weaker then has been in the past Wlad worked hard for that spot,as for Ward he is dominating this tourney so far,i truly believe he is top dog at 168 one of if not the best division in boxing.

I agree. I think Wlad has to be on the p4p list just because he has been dominating the last 4-6 years. Alot of boxers jump from division to division but he has consistently beat everyone in his division. So he deserves to be up there, I can definetly see why you have Ward up there but I'm not sure he has achieved enough to be Top 5. He's been impressive no question, But I dont think he has been tested to the degree where we can rank him alonside Mayweather and Pacquiao. If he wins the Super Six, Then I would definetly have him up there. Possibly even in the Top 3.

You also made a good choice putting Montiel in there instead of Donaire. Nonito is one of my favorite fighters but he just hasnt done enough to earn that spot, Not that it's his fault. Arum keeps putting him in there with fighters who are 2nd tier, He has very good skills and needs to test himself against the elite because I think he could beat anyone at 115, But Arum has held him back. Montiel meanwhile has been a champion for a while and just KO'd another champ to unify the titles so he deserves the recognition, alot more than Donaire.

[-Kev-]

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Dawson
4. Marquez
5. W/ Klitschko
6. Ward
7. Williams
8. Mosley
9. Bradley
10. Martinez

[MARKBNLV]

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Dawson
4. Marquez
5. W/ Klitschko
6. Ward
7. Williams
8. Mosley
9. Bradley
10. Martinez

Interesting i had to drop Mosley due to inactivity and he got his ass beat.

[Anti~Jalandoni]

Everyone is welcome to make there own list,it was very hard for me to chose and i may change it,if i left someone more deserving out.


1.Floyd Mayweather Jr
2.Manny Pacquiao
3.Wladimer Klitschko
4.Chad Dawson
5.Andre Ward
6.Paul Williams
7.Timothy Bradley
8.Sergio Martinez
9.Fernando Montiel
10.Juan Manuel Marquez

disagree on the number one.....

[-Kev-]

Interesting i had to drop Mosley due to inactivity and he got his ass beat.

Yeah, then you also gotta drop Marquez because he also got his ass beat by the same person and even longer ago. It was September when Marquez last fought. And Marquez' next fight is against some he already TKO'ed.


But I left them both there just because I guess I don't see who I can drop for them P4P. I can't think of anyone only maybe Bute.

[dibzvincent143]

nice list. a mayweather or pac at number can always can-be.

[Left Hook Tua]

1) Manny Pacquiao

2) Floyd Mayweather Jr.

3) Wladimir Klitschko

4) Paul Williams

5) Vitali Klitschko

6) Sergio Martinez

7) Juan Manuel Marquez

8) Pongsaklek Wonjongkam

9) Lucian Bute

10) Miguel Cotto

where's tomasz adamek?

he was cruiser champ and now top 10 at heavy.

you're anti-polish.

[MARKBNLV]

where's tomasz adamek?

he was cruiser champ and now top 10 at heavy.

you're anti-polish.

Adamek is close to p4p but not quite there.