Comments Thread For: Clottey Breaks Silence: Talks Pacquiao, Cotto, Margarito

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Good move then

Oh absolutely. I told everyone beforehand that Clottey wasn't going to do **** but just get hit. And that if he did do something, it was going to be to foul. Kudos for him not pulling it out of his hat. Clottey lacks heart. And if you notice, even when he's winning, he tends to stop fighting. That's if he doesn't start fouling. So I knew exactly what was going to happen when he met someone the caliber of Pacquiao. He did NOTHING.

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Oh absolutely. I told everyone beforehand that Clottey wasn't going to do **** but just get hit. And that if he did do something, it was going to be to foul. Kudos for him not pulling it out of his hat. Clottey lacks heart. And if you notice, even when he's winning, he tends to stop fighting. That's if he doesn't start fouling. So I knew exactly what was going to happen when he met someone the caliber of Pacquiao. He did NOTHING.

I know that we have agreed to disagree..... and I do accept that Clottey does not have a high work-rate, and is not known for having great conditioning.....

..... but as you pointed out, in spite of a constant 12 round pummelling..... not one single foul, or foot put out-of-place by Clottey.....

..... just wow..... great self-control Josh..... that was the only thing that Clottey actually did well in that fight.....

..... and the " token resistance " that appeared to be surprisingly successful..... then would just as quickly disappear.....

..... maybe, that was good self-control as well.....

..... but backing up, and letting Manny off the ropes.....

..... well, that was just..... polite.....

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I know that we have agreed to disagree..... and I do accept that Clottey does not have a high work-rate, and is not known for having great conditioning.....

..... but as you pointed out, in spite of a constant 12 round pummelling..... not one single foul, or foot put out-of-place by Clottey.....

..... just wow..... great self-control Josh..... that was the only thing that Clottey actually did well in that fight.....

..... and the " token resistance " that appeared to be surprisingly successful..... then would just as quickly disappear.....

..... maybe, that was good self-control as well.....

..... but backing up, and letting Manny off the ropes.....

..... well, that was just..... polite.....

Sorry, none of those things came as a surprise to me.

[rabn21]

Duran was being humiliated by Leonard. He saw that he couldn't do nothing to catch him. He couldn't change his style, Leonard was showboating, clowning his ass etc. Duran took the easy way out and claimed "cramps"

How is that different. IMO what Duran did was worse. Do you expect Clottey to just morph into a fighter he is not? Clottey has his own set of skills and fighting style.

There was nothing Clottey could have done. He is not a volume puncher.

As Gorilla Dogs mentioned, Clottey has a low punch output.

Clottey deserves respect. He is a fighter. I hope to see his next fight soon.

I don't know about you guys

The thing was anytime he did make the effort to throw punches he connected and was snapping pacs head back. Then he just stopped doing it. I definitely would not call the man a coward but he will never take over any division unless he starts actually listening to his corner and learning to make adjustments during a fight. That is what seperates the champions from the tier below. Its a shame as I think he has the physical tools to do it, just needs to put it all together mentally.

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Manny pacquiao has WAY too much speed for clottey, Pacquiao seriously rocked clottey in the 2nd round and clottey was in full block mode, kinda like how cotto was is full retreat mode in the 8th round

imagine what its like to fight someone whos way faster and throws better punches than you do, you'd block like clottey too

[AFighter4U]

Manny pacquiao has WAY too much speed for clottey, Pacquiao seriously rocked clottey in the 2nd round and clottey was in full block mode, kinda like how cotto was is full retreat mode in the 8th round

imagine what its like to fight someone whos way faster and throws better punches than you do, you'd block like clottey too

Problem is, they simply cannot imagine Manny being that quick or that intelligent a fighter. So the other logical explanation they can even consider is that Clottey either purposefully lost or simply wasn't trying his best at the fight.

All they see is Manny being hit practically every time Clottey opens up without realizing that Manny was forced to be hit to somehow elicit some sort of fight from Clottey, and then when he DOES come out to fight, Manny AGAIN overwhelms him and he's forced to put on his shell again.

[AFighter4U]

People tend to ignore the fact that even clottey admitted that he felt whenever he opened up, Manny would tag him every single time.

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Problem is, they simply cannot imagine Manny being that quick or that intelligent a fighter. So the other logical explanation they can even consider is that Clottey either purposefully lost or simply wasn't trying his best at the fight.

All they see is Manny being hit practically every time Clottey opens up without realizing that Manny was forced to be hit to somehow elicit some sort of fight from Clottey, and then when he DOES come out to fight, Manny AGAIN overwhelms him and he's forced to put on his shell again.

People tend to ignore the fact that even clottey admitted that he felt whenever he opened up, Manny would tag him every single time.

You got it

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The thing was anytime he did make the effort to throw punches he connected and was snapping pacs head back. Then he just stopped doing it. I definitely would not call the man a coward but he will never take over any division unless he starts actually listening to his corner and learning to make adjustments during a fight. That is what seperates the champions from the tier below. Its a shame as I think he has the physical tools to do it, just needs to put it all together mentally.

I will finish what you started, coz ya kinda told half the story, then..... you stopped, just like Clottey

" The thing was anytime he did make the effort to throw punches he connected and was snapping pacs head back..... "

Manny would stop throwing punches, and either cover up, or back up.

" Then he just stopped doing it..... " and let Manny come forward and start throwing punches again, regular as clockwork

Then..... you come up with a bunch of bull**** worse than Clottey's excuses to justify why that happened.

I warn you..... don't you ever play chess with Bob Arum for money

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Problem is, they simply cannot imagine Manny being that quick or that intelligent a fighter. So the other logical explanation they can even consider is that Clottey either purposefully lost or simply wasn't trying his best at the fight.

That's just silly..... stop your " it's because Manny is so wonderful " bull****.

Especially after making this comment.....
" All they see is Manny being hit practically every time Clottey opens up "

Manny is a great fighter, but who wouldn't look good against somebody who chose not to fight back..... especially when, how did you put it again?..... oh, that's right..... " Manny being hit practically every time Clottey opens up "

All they see is Manny being hit practically every time Clottey opens up without realizing that Manny was forced to be hit to somehow elicit some sort of fight from Clottey, and then when he DOES come out to fight, Manny AGAIN overwhelms him and he's forced to put on his shell again.

I think that Clottey could have opened up anytime he wanted, because.....

1.) " I didn't feel like his punches really hurt me " J.Clottey

2.) " I knew I could hurt him when I threw my power shots " J.Clottey

3.) " Manny being hit practically every time Clottey opens up " AFighter4U

4.) Clottey was not being counter-punched, in fact if you watch closely, often Manny would not even start to punch until Clottey put his guard back up.

And sometimes, Clottey would even back up after a combination, put his guard up, then walk forward at which time Manny would start throwing punches again.

It looked to me like he chose to be overwhelmed..... especially when he had an advantage, and then chose to hand it straight back to Manny - round 6, I know you saw it