Who was the Fighter of the 90's???

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  • JUYJUY
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    #61
    Originally posted by JUYJUY
    If you want a good video, check out 'Chris Eubank - Simply The Best' with Reg Gutteridge:

    It features some footage of Eubank winning the NYC Golden Gloves final in 1984, it also features some footage of his early fights in Atlantic City, and then some highlights Vs Stretch, the whole fights Vs Watson 1 and 2, and some highlights Vs Malinga, Vs Jarvis, Vs Esset, Vs Thornton, Vs Giminez. It was released at Christmas 1992.






    Also, man, another video that was released, at Christmas 1990, was called 'The Rise of EUBANK' also with Reg Gutteridge. Barry Hearn talks about Eubank's unique personality and how he catches attention, and that he started promoting Eubank after the Logan fight. The video features highlights of all of Eubank's fights in the UK from 1988 right upto the Milo fight - including footage of Eubank with his trainer Ronnie Davies at the Brighton gym, then it starts the build-up to the Benn fight including the 20 second KO of Dos Santos. It finishes with the whole of the Benn fight and the video literally cuts off to finish when Benn is stopped as Eubank turns around and looks to the heavens.
    Abit off-topic, and I'm sorry. But I'm obsessed you see..

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    • TheEvilSaint
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      #62
      Originally posted by JUYJUY
      Abit off-topic, and I'm sorry. But I'm obsessed you see..
      needless to say...

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      • JUYJUY
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        #63
        As for Nigel Benn, he was clearly a shadow of his former self after the McClellan fight in Feb 95, he had an x-ray and there was a shadow on the brain. Benn was in hospital for ages, he had no end of injuries and was ****** to resume his boxing career. Against Nardiello and Perez later on in 95 he looked awful compared to how good he used to be, he appeared slow, easy to hit and his punches were often depressingly out of range - it was only his 'whacking' ability that allowed him to sc**** through and get those couple of wins Post-McClellan. So you cannot really count his three losses in 96, he was totally done over a year before that. His couple of legendary fights with Eubank force him into recognition, knocking out DeWitt and Barkley in their backyard of America in 1990 to win World titles also deserves recognition, making 10 defences of his WBC crown probably deserves recognition too, and the McClellan win tops it all off nicely Legend.
        Last edited by JUYJUY; 07-07-2005, 07:56 PM.

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        • Slipx
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          #64
          Originally posted by JUYJUY
          As for Nigel Benn, he was clearly a shadow of his former self after the McClellan fight in Feb 95, he had an x-ray and there was a shadow on the brain. Benn was in hospital for ages, he had no end of injuries and was ****** to resume his boxing career. Against Nardiello and Perez later on in 95 he looked awful compared to how good he used to be, he appeared slow, easy to hit and his punches were often depressingly out of range - it was only his 'whacking' ability that allowed him to sc**** through and get those couple of wins Post-McClellan. So you cannot really count his three losses in 96, he was totally done over a year before that. His couple of legendary fights with Eubank force him into recognition, knocking out DeWitt and Barkley in their backyard of America in 1990 to win World titles also deserves recognition, making 10 defences of his WBC crown probably deserves recognition too, and the McClellan win tops it all off nicely Legend.
          dont forget

          he deserves recognition for roy ducking him too

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          • JUYJUY
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            #65
            Originally posted by Slipx
            dont forget

            he deserves recognition for roy ducking him too
            I think the reason Roy was reluctant to fight Benn after the McClellan fight was because it would recieve the wrong publiclity as a 'revenge mission' seeing as Jones and McClellan went back a long way and were good friends. And let's be honest, Benn wouldn't of stood much hope against Jones if it took place Post-McClellan because McClellan literally punched the fight out of Benn.

            But there is absolutely no doubt about it that Jones did indeed duck Benn back in 1993, Jones had won the WBC continental americas super-middleweight title in 1992 while Benn was already the main WBC super-middleweight champion, Jones soon became the mandatory contender for Benn's title and Benn rubbed his hands together for a "tear-up" with Jones. What happened? Jones chickened out of it and dropped back down to 160 instead to fight for the vacant IBF 160 title against Hopkins (Hopkins wasn't even ranked in the top five at 160 at the time). So yes, Jones ducked Benn in 1993, that is almost a fact really.

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            • streetdreams
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              #66
              new to this site but a crazy box fan. glad I found this joint.
              I cant believe alot of the things I'm hearing
              first off I think holyfield WILL be the boxer MOST remembered from the 90's, it may seem unfair but heavyweights hold peoples attention. in 2010 you really think people are gonna be in awe of trindad? foreman or chavez?!?! no way. the boxer that sold seats and pushed PPV into peoples homes was holyfield. I WOULD hold jones a close second BUT truthfully he didnt gain alot of noteriety until
              he stepped up to the WBC light heavy in 1996. his wins over toney and hopkins before that date wernt even a flash in the pan
              compared to the media attention he got post 99. 4 years of fighting dont make him the big man of the 90's.he is one of the best middle weights of all time BUT the 90's didnt shine like the early 00's for him when he stepped up to light heavyweight.
              Foreman was one of the greatest of all time, and ya he wrote the books with his win at 45 but it was short lived at the end of a Loong career. and he will go down in history for his accomplishments in the pre 90's days, but of course there will always be an honourable mention for that moorer win. holyfield is far from perfect, his 2 losses to bowe, letting
              holmes and foreman take him the distance with out a KO. and the moore deal. holyfield wasnt perfect as far as legends go but hell even louis, frazier, and foreman had there embarassing losses so its all good. overall he will be remembered in history and thats why I placed him 1st. I wanna defend tito here for a second, he had some GREAT fights in the 90's but really he's not gonna be remembered for defending that IBF belt 16 times in the 90's. like jones he's gone go down for his wars in the 00's against reid, vargas, joppy and of course that one fight of the 90's de la hoya. now this may sound funny, I hate hoya. I dont like his style, I dont like his personality. and I sure as hell dont think he'l be remembered as great simply because of his style. (maybe as a promoter since all he thinks about is money) but he took down some big PPV numbers, more than jones and trinidad put togethor in the 90's and thats why I gotta place this bastard at 2nd behind holyfield.
              so a bit long and confusing my top 4 is
              1 Holyfield
              2 De La Hoya
              3 Jones
              4 Trinidad
              Last edited by streetdreams; 07-07-2005, 08:16 PM.

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              • borikua
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                #67
                Felix Trinidad in the 90's

                1993 - KO Maurice Blocker 34-3-0 in the second round for the IBF welter title at the age of 20.

                1994 - Beats Camacho 44-2-0, Oba Carr 32-0-0, and Campas 56-0-0 (50kos)

                1999 - Beats Whitaker 40-2-1 and DLH 31-0-0 (like it or not)

                He made 15 defenses of his welter title from 1990-1999 (still a record)

                Nuff said.

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                • ottoevans
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                  #68
                  yeah i think Oscar without a doubt is the fighter of the decade. He sold more tickets than any fighter (besides Tyson). He defeated alot of Contenders and was loved by most people. Roy Jones was the best talent wise as Bernard Hopkins but Roy Jones was never loved like Oscar and B-Hop just recently have exploded onto the picture

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by borikua
                    1993 - KO Maurice Blocker 34-3-0 in the second round for the IBF welter title at the age of 20.

                    1994 - Beats Camacho 44-2-0, Oba Carr 32-0-0, and Campas 56-0-0 (50kos)

                    1999 - Beats Whitaker 40-2-1 and DLH 31-0-0 (like it or not)

                    He made 15 defenses of his welter title from 1990-1999 (still a record)

                    Nuff said.

                    A shot, coked out Whitaker, a B level fighter in Campas who was severely overrated, and a bull**** decision over DLH...don't think so.

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                    • oldgringo
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                      #70
                      Whitaker was easily the best fighter of the 90's.

                      -Titles in 4 divisions

                      Prime Nelson
                      Diaz
                      Ramirez (it was at the end of 89 but I'm counting it)
                      Paez
                      McGirt x2
                      Pineda
                      Chavez (thats right everyone knows it was a blatant robbery)
                      Vazquez at 154
                      Rivera x2
                      KOed 20-0 Hurtado


                      Lost a close but questionable fight to DLH, and hung in with Trinidad even when he was coming off a long layoff, was shot, and was using coke.

                      Greatest defensive fighter ever (arguably, but I haven't seen nearly enough of Pep to put him above Whitaker)

                      I think some people are thinking of popular fighters as opposed to the elite of the elite.

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