Admit It, Wlad Klitschko is better than Prime Tyson...

[BritishBoxing92]

oh ffs!!!.......right here it is then....Wladimir resume wise atm is better then Prime Mike Tysons ok??? apart from that movement wise and aggression wladimir isnt **** compared to prime mike tyson which was 1985 - 1997. im tired of hearing little pricks saying **** like "oh tysons only good wins were over guys like old holmes , spinks and berbick and ruddock" ....why is it that when Mike tyson fighted Larry holmes in 1988 then that he KOd him and is the only man in holmes career to ever do so?? even a Prime evander holyfield when he fighted larry in 1992 could not knock him out...earnie shavers couldnt even do that to a prime larry and he hit harder then foreman or tyson...yeah mike lost to guys like douglas , holyfield and lewis there we go i aint denying that but im tired of hearing people say **** like this all the time...

you guys try winning the HW Championship at 20 Years old then we shall see either then that STFU!...

try winning the HW Championship after a 4 year sentence in prison??? no i dont see anybody doing that...muhammad ali couldnt even win back the HW Championship after a 3 year ban could he? Foreman couldnt even win the HW championship after 10 years off now could he? no??? well then!....

wladimirs resume and record is better then prime mike tysons....but apart from that he aint really all that aggressive and dosnt even have the best chin does he?? mike never got knocked out easily now did he? unlike klitschko...tyson can take a punch..

[Walt Liquor]

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ever see what happens when Wlad's chin gets touched?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

oh ffs!!!.......right here it is then....Wladimir resume wise atm is better then Prime Mike Tysons ok??? apart from that movement wise and aggression wladimir isnt **** compared to prime mike tyson which was 1985 - 1997. im tired of hearing little pricks saying **** like "oh tysons only good wins were over guys like old holmes , spinks and berbick and ruddock" ....why is it that when Mike tyson fighted Larry holmes in 1988 then that he KOd him and is the only man in holmes career to ever do so?? even a Prime evander holyfield when he fighted larry in 1992 could not knock him out...earnie shavers couldnt even do that to a prime larry and he hit harder then foreman or tyson...yeah mike lost to guys like douglas , holyfield and lewis there we go i aint denying that but im tired of hearing people say **** like this all the time...

you guys try winning the HW Championship at 20 Years old then we shall see either then that STFU!...

try winning the HW Championship after a 4 year sentence in prison??? no i dont see anybody doing that...muhammad ali couldnt even win back the HW Championship after a 3 year ban could he? Foreman couldnt even win the HW championship after 10 years off now could he? no??? well then!....

wladimirs resume and record is better then prime mike tysons....but apart from that he aint really all that aggressive and dosnt even have the best chin does he?? mike never got knocked out easily now did he? unlike klitschko...tyson can take a punch..

Wlad KO's Mike Tyson and it isn't even a discussion IMO. Tyson's only chance is to hit him with a homerun shot which he could have done to anyone, I agree.

First off, Tyson fought an old, way past his prime Larry Holmes. If he would have fought a prime Larry Holmes, he would have gotten KO'd.

Tyson had the biggest trouble with big HW, guys with long reach and good jabs. He went the distance with Bone crusher Smith, Razor Ruddock guys that had reach and boxing ability.

Wlad's jab, reach and right hand would have caught Tyson eventually and KO'd him, I have no doubt in that. IF of course Wlad could get out of the first 3 rounds ,which I think he could because he doesn't get hit much by smaller fighters.

Tyson is very overrated man, sorry to tell you this. He was exciting, polarizing and one of the hardest punchers all time but he was very overrated.

[Walt Liquor]

oh ffs!!!.......right here it is then....Wladimir resume wise atm is better then Prime Mike Tysons ok??? apart from that movement wise and aggression wladimir isnt **** compared to prime mike tyson which was 1985 - 1997. im tired of hearing little pricks saying **** like "oh tysons only good wins were over guys like old holmes , spinks and berbick and ruddock" ....why is it that when Mike tyson fighted Larry holmes in 1988 then that he KOd him and is the only man in holmes career to ever do so?? even a Prime evander holyfield when he fighted larry in 1992 could not knock him out...earnie shavers couldnt even do that to a prime larry and he hit harder then foreman or tyson...yeah mike lost to guys like douglas , holyfield and lewis there we go i aint denying that but im tired of hearing people say **** like this all the time...

you guys try winning the HW Championship at 20 Years old then we shall see either then that STFU!...

try winning the HW Championship after a 4 year sentence in prison??? no i dont see anybody doing that...muhammad ali couldnt even win back the HW Championship after a 3 year ban could he? Foreman couldnt even win the HW championship after 10 years off now could he? no??? well then!....

wladimirs resume and record is better then prime mike tysons....but apart from that he aint really all that aggressive and dosnt even have the best chin does he?? mike never got knocked out easily now did he? unlike klitschko...tyson can take a punch..

not necessarily true

[Walt Liquor]

Wlad KO's Mike Tyson and it isn't even a discussion IMO. Tyson's only chance is to hit him with a homerun shot which he could have done to anyone, I agree.

First off, Tyson fought an old, way past his prime Larry Holmes. If he would have fought a prime Larry Holmes, he would have gotten KO'd.

Tyson had the biggest trouble with big HW, guys with long reach and good jabs. He went the distance with Bone crusher Smith, Razor Ruddock guys that had reach and boxing ability.

Wlad's jab, reach and right hand would have caught Tyson eventually and KO'd him, I have no doubt in that. If of course Wlad could get out of the first 3 rounds which I think he could because he doesn't get hit much by smaller fighters.

Tyson is very overrated man, sorry to tell you this. He was exciting, polarizing and one of the hardest punchers all time but he was very overrated.

Tyson would crush his body.

I think the biggest nightmare matchup for Wlad is Joe Frazier.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Tyson would crush his body.

I think the biggest nightmare matchup for Wlad is Joe Frazier.

IDK man, I just feel people get caught up in what Tyson's image was instead of looking at him just as a fighter. Tyson was a great body puncher but he didn't do it enough. He threw to the body mostly to set up the head, not to wear opponents down.

Wlad causes major mismatches against Tyson, and we know Wlad can punch. If he lands that right hand, it's over.

I agree with Frazier, but Tyson is no Frazier.

[Walt Liquor]

IDK man, I just feel people get caught up in what Tyson's image was instead of looking at him just as a fighter. Tyson was a great body puncher but he didn't do it enough. He threw to the body mostly to set up the head, not to wear opponents down.

Wlad causes major mismatches against Tyson, and we know Wlad can punch. If he lands that right hand, it's over.

I agree with Frazier, but Tyson is no Frazier.

Agreed. Frazier would murk Wlad IMO.

I think that Tyson would have to work the body AND take a few Wlad bombs, and I have no idea if Tyson could take um.

One thing I know is that Tyson was fast as shi t and had great footwork. He could slip some Wlad shots and chase his ass down if he stunned him.

I think its a toss up. I like Vit's chances more.

[TheMagicMan]

oh ffs!!!.......right here it is then....Wladimir resume wise atm is better then Prime Mike Tysons ok??? apart from that movement wise and aggression wladimir isnt **** compared to prime mike tyson which was 1985 - 1997. im tired of hearing little pricks saying **** like "oh tysons only good wins were over guys like old holmes , spinks and berbick and ruddock" ....why is it that when Mike tyson fighted Larry holmes in 1988 then that he KOd him and is the only man in holmes career to ever do so?? even a Prime evander holyfield when he fighted larry in 1992 could not knock him out...earnie shavers couldnt even do that to a prime larry and he hit harder then foreman or tyson...yeah mike lost to guys like douglas , holyfield and lewis there we go i aint denying that but im tired of hearing people say **** like this all the time...

you guys try winning the HW Championship at 20 Years old then we shall see either then that STFU!...

try winning the HW Championship after a 4 year sentence in prison??? no i dont see anybody doing that...muhammad ali couldnt even win back the HW Championship after a 3 year ban could he? Foreman couldnt even win the HW championship after 10 years off now could he? no??? well then!....

I agree with you. Ali and Foreman are both overrated and both would get KO'ed by Wlad. But beyond that I think youre totally offbase. Tyson's accomplishments are great, if you want to say he was the best 20 year old fighter of all time, im with you. However, Wlad is too smart for Tyson. One thing I noticed with Tyson fights is a lot looked like UFC fights, in that they were scripted or one fighter was paid to brawl...even though that was clearly a dumb tactic. I watch some Tyson fights and im like why is this guy going to stand right in front of Tyson and try to fight him?

Also Holy wasnt some fantastic knock out artist. So not knocking out Larry Holmes isnt some big deal Tyson had potential, but you cant judge a fighter on that when he doesnt reach it. What if Vitali had started boxing and focusing just on boxing when Tyson did. Vitali is 39 now and probably has 1 more year left of near prime boxing. What if he didnt get hurt etc...you cant do that. You judge them on what they did. Fact is, every guy who showed up to that ring who A. wasnt scared and B. Was in their prime, beat Tyson.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Agreed. Frazier would murk Wlad IMO.

I think that Tyson would have to work the body AND take a few Wlad bombs, and I have no idea if Tyson could take um.

One thing I know is that Tyson was fast as shi t and had great footwork. He could slip some Wlad shots and chase his ass down if he stunned him.

I think its a toss up. I like Vit's chances more.

Yea I mean don't get me wrong, tyson could land a shot that ends it all. All of the great punchers had that in them, the question is could he?

As you can see, I'm not a huge fan of Tyson, I will admit that.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Wlad and Vitali share the same fate as Larry Holmes, in that they do not get the credit that they deserve do to the state of the HW division. But by no means do I feel as though Wlad is better than Tyson in his Prime. He may be better than Tyson after he came back. But a focused, young, powerful, relentless Tyson with bad intent couldn't be stopped. Tyson moved his head, new how to get in, and was so quick and powerful that his fights were over before his opponent knew he was in the ring. If he would have sustained the drive and focus he had early in his career, who knows where he would be on the list of all-time greats.

A prime Tyson you are talking about was stopped by a bum like Buster Douglas, who didn't have a good win prior or after the Tyson fight.