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  • sicko
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    #11
    Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs
    catch weight is agreed weight INBETWEEN the weight class limits, thats why they call it catch weights

    yeah I know that but I am just saying, Martinez fighting at 154 wouldn't be a disadvantage to him nor would it drain him so I don't see how people would be able to complain when he was just recently the 154 lbs champion, now trying to drag him lower then 154 would be a problems

    Mayweather don't do the catch weight BS anyway, Mayweather is not afraid of being the smaller guy in a match, he has done it so many times before

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      #12
      Originally posted by sicko
      yeah I know that but I am just saying, Martinez fighting at 154 wouldn't be a disadvantage to him nor would it drain him so I don't see how people would be able to complain when he was just recently the 154 lbs champion, now trying to drag him lower then 154 would be a problems

      Mayweather don't do the catch weight BS anyway, Mayweather is not afraid of being the smaller guy in a match, he has done it so many times before
      You nailed it.................

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        #13
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Why wouldn't it be? Martinez said hed fight him anywhere between 154 and 160.

        Its not like Martinez has an issue "getting down" to 155. Its a legit fight.

        Floyd can't weigh 160.

        Martinez can fight at 154 with no issues.

        Makes perfect sense. Again if this was a Sturm or Pavlik I'd have a problem with it because those guys can't make 155.
        Precisely. Martinez is better at 154 and has no problem making that weight.

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          #14
          Originally posted by CarlosG815
          Precisely. Martinez is better at 154 and has no problem making that weight.
          Exactly....

          I dont get the issue. I'm waiting for any one to draw a Pac-Cotto correlation so I can shoot that down..lol.

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            #15
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Why wouldn't it be? Martinez said hed fight him anywhere between 154 and 160.

            Its not like Martinez has an issue "getting down" to 155. Its a legit fight.

            Floyd can't weigh 160.

            Martinez can fight at 154 with no issues.

            Makes perfect sense. Again if this was a Sturm or Pavlik I'd have a problem with it because those guys can't make 155.
            it's the same ideal as forcing Cotto down to a weight AND making him fight for his strap

            so in essence you are asking a fighter to not be afforded the limits of the weight class they are champions in

            very hypocritical if you ask me

            if Floyd were to do that he is just as big of an ass as Manny is for making Cotto fight for his belt

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              #16
              Originally posted by sicko
              yeah I know that but I am just saying, Martinez fighting at 154 wouldn't be a disadvantage to him nor would it drain him so I don't see how people would be able to complain when he was just recently the 154 lbs champion, now trying to drag him lower then 154 would be a problems

              Mayweather don't do the catch weight BS anyway, Mayweather is not afraid of being the smaller guy in a match, he has done it so many times before
              LOL he just did one two fights ago.....

              my goodness

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                #17
                Originally posted by Eaner0919
                it's the same ideal as forcing Cotto down to a weight AND making him fight for his strap

                so in essence you are asking a fighter to not be afforded the limits of the weight class they are champions in

                very hypocritical if you ask me

                if Floyd were to do that he is just as big of an ass as Manny is for making Cotto fight for his belt
                Nope bro. I knew someone would draw a Cotto example.

                Pac is ****ted on for that because:

                1. Cotto struggles to make 147 as it is.

                2. Pacquiao would be healthy as an ox while Cotto sweats down.

                3. Pacquiao has already fought at the 147 Pound limit before.

                4. There was a 900k weight penalty on Cotto.

                5. He forced Cotto to weigh 145 pounds and Cotto didn't want his belt on the line if he had to come in under 147. But Bob put a bug in his ear.


                I dont see how that comes close to what Floyd-Martinez is.

                1. Martinez has said "anywhere" between 154 and 160 is fine with him.

                2. Martinez has ZERO issues making 154.

                3. Martinez has ZERO issues making 160.

                4. Martinez has ZERO issue with his 160 Pound belt being on the line.

                5. Mayweather has never fought at 160 before.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Nope bro. I knew someone would draw a Cotto example.

                  Pac is ****ted on for that because:

                  1. Cotto struggles to make 147 as it is.
                  no he doesn't, he weighed 146 for his fight prior to Manny, his trainer Phil Landman has been on record as saying 147 is not an issue

                  2. Pacquiao would be healthy as an ox while Cotto sweats down.
                  maybe but again Cotto chose to fight at a catchweight. What he didn't initially agree to was it being for his belt

                  3. Pacquiao has already fought at the 147 Pound limit before.
                  one fight, against a fighter that had no business at 147, and if I cam correct Manny weighed what 145?

                  4. There was a 900k weight penalty on Cotto.
                  so?

                  5. He forced Cotto to weigh 145 pounds and Cotto didn't want his belt on the line if he had to come in under 147. But Bob put a bug in his ear.
                  he didnt force Cotto to do anything other than give up his title which was bull****


                  I dont see how that comes close to what Floyd-Martinez is.

                  1. Martinez has said "anywhere" between 154 and 160 is fine with him.
                  for his 160lb title?

                  2. Martinez has ZERO issues making 154.
                  you know that for a fact? not for nothing but he hasn't fought at 154 in the last two fights

                  3. Martinez has ZERO issues making 160.
                  what does this have to do with anything?

                  4. Martinez has ZERO issue with his 160 Pound belt being on the line.
                  its bull****

                  5. Mayweather has never fought at 160 before.
                  so?

                  hypthetically its Mayweather who made the challenge to fight a middleweight for his belt

                  that middleweight should be afforded.....THE MIDDLEWEIGHT LIMIT

                  now if Martinez CHOOSES (key phrase) not to weigh 160 thats on him

                  but he should, like Cotto, should be afforded the limit of the weight class they are (were) champs at

                  simple as that

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Eaner0919
                    no he doesn't, he weighed 146 for his fight prior to Manny, his trainer Phil Landman has been on record as saying 147 is not an issue



                    maybe but again Cotto chose to fight at a catchweight. What he didn't initially agree to was it being for his belt


                    one fight, against a fighter that had no business at 147, and if I cam correct Manny weighed what 145?


                    so?


                    he didnt force Cotto to do anything other than give up his title which was bull****


                    I dont see how that comes close to what Floyd-Martinez is.



                    for his 160lb title?



                    you know that for a fact? not for nothing but he hasn't fought at 154 in the last two fights



                    what does this have to do with anything?



                    its bull****


                    so?

                    hypthetically its Mayweather who made the challenge to fight a middleweight for his belt

                    that middleweight should be afforded.....THE MIDDLEWEIGHT LIMIT

                    now if Martinez CHOOSES (key phrase) not to weigh 160 thats on him

                    but he should, like Cotto, should be afforded the limit of the weight class they are (were) champs at

                    simple as that
                    Exactly. If floyd does it, pac does it its pu$$y. If you are the money maker and you want to move up move up. Don't kinda sorta move up.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Eaner0919
                      no he doesn't, he weighed 146 for his fight prior to Manny, his trainer Phil Landman has been on record as saying 147 is not an issue



                      maybe but again Cotto chose to fight at a catchweight. What he didn't initially agree to was it being for his belt


                      one fight, against a fighter that had no business at 147, and if I cam correct Manny weighed what 145?


                      so?


                      he didnt force Cotto to do anything other than give up his title which was bull****


                      I dont see how that comes close to what Floyd-Martinez is.



                      for his 160lb title?



                      you know that for a fact? not for nothing but he hasn't fought at 154 in the last two fights



                      what does this have to do with anything?



                      its bull****


                      so?

                      hypthetically its Mayweather who made the challenge to fight a middleweight for his belt

                      that middleweight should be afforded.....THE MIDDLEWEIGHT LIMIT

                      now if Martinez CHOOSES (key phrase) not to weigh 160 thats on him

                      but he should, like Cotto, should be afforded the limit of the weight class they are (were) champs at

                      simple as that
                      He was.

                      Martinez said anywhere to 154-160 is fine with him. So there it is. Martinez laid it out for Floyd.

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